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#1 2017-05-20 17:34:28

Pretzalz
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When does The Witchwood Crown take place?

Some places say 30 years after MS&T, some say much longer than 30 years, some say 40+ years, some say 50 years after. 30 years can't really be right given the ages of the characters, right?


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#2 2017-05-20 18:06:22

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Re: When does The Witchwood Crown take place?

Pretzalz wrote:

Some places say 30 years after MS&T, some say much longer than 30 years, some say 40+ years, some say 50 years after. 30 years can't really be right given the ages of the characters, right?

TWC takes place in 1201, according to the ad sheet for TWC. That's 34 years after the Afterword in TGAT.


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#3 2017-05-21 11:19:44

Pretzalz
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Re: When does The Witchwood Crown take place?

Okay that works, barely. It is still cutting it a bit close math-wise.


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#4 2017-05-21 11:48:19

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Re: When does The Witchwood Crown take place?

Pretzalz wrote:

Okay that works, barely. It is still cutting it a bit close math-wise.

I agree.


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#5 2017-06-07 18:48:36

Jeremy_Erman
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Re: When does The Witchwood Crown take place?

Ah, thirty-FOUR years: those extra four years make a big difference. I'd been thinking it was no more than thirty years, which had one of the characters being born when his father was thirteen...seventeen makes much more sense, even in a "medieval" society.

 

#6 2017-06-07 19:46:00

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Re: When does The Witchwood Crown take place?

Yes, for that reason, and at least one other...


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#7 2017-10-06 13:01:08

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Re: When does The Witchwood Crown take place?

Just since it came up on twitter, the 'some say 50 years after' in the initial post was in reference to the two score and 10 years since Leleth died line. Sorry if I was overly cryptic. Part of it was intentional as the book wasn't actually out, but I realize it may have been unclear that 'some places' referred to the text of the ARC.


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#8 2017-10-06 14:01:51

Jeremy_Erman
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Re: When does The Witchwood Crown take place?

I'm afraid that "two score and ten" is a typo or misconstruction of some sort, since Miri and Simon can't be much more than two score and ten (i.e. 50) years old themselves.

 

#9 2017-10-07 00:23:20

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Re: When does The Witchwood Crown take place?

It is a mistake. The year given on page 556 is 1201 and that is 34 years after DBC. As I said on twitter I thought a score was the oldschool word for a dozen which would make perfect sense. Alas it isn't.

Did you look up the etymology, Pretzalz? And what did you find?


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#10 2017-10-07 13:08:13

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Re: When does The Witchwood Crown take place?

Just cursorily, basically a score was a notch on a stick when counting flocks of sheep, and each score meant 20 sheep. And it is related to keeping score in a sporting event and not just a coincidence. I guess 20 stuck possibly because of the influence of french (and possibly the Celts) which sometimes counts by 20 with vint. 20 is what you get counting on your fingers by raising and then lowering each finger in order. 12 seems much more random to me, but 12 is useful as it has a lot of factors[1,2,3,4,6,12].


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#11 2017-10-07 15:24:03

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Re: When does The Witchwood Crown take place?

Mighty interesting!


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