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#1 2009-11-12 15:20:18

Rook
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Write a bad book?

I'm listening to the Grammar Girl podcast, and she's going over some tips on how to write a novel (from author Scott Ziegler).  One of the tips: write a bad book.

The reason: writing a bad book is easier, and it gets you in the habit of writing.  Writer's block can get bypassed through some really bad plot developments and it's okay.

Then you put it away for six months and don't read it.

After that, you write your good book.

Anyone use this technique?  And does it really help?


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#2 2009-11-12 17:48:26

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Re: Write a bad book?

Yes I have, and yes it does. I believe that this was the philosophy behind NaNo also:

"Make no mistake: You will be writing a lot of crap. And that's a good thing. By forcing yourself to write so intensely, you are giving yourself permission to make mistakes. To forgo the endless tweaking and editing and just create. To build without tearing down."


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#3 2009-11-12 21:46:13

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Re: Write a bad book?

Its Scott Sigler.  hehe

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#4 2009-11-13 00:09:07

Rook
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Re: Write a bad book?

Wolfshade wrote:

Its Scott Sigler.  hehe

B'oh!


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#5 2009-11-13 01:10:34

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Re: Write a bad book?

I've written lots of bad books. :) (All Nano-stories of course)


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#6 2009-11-13 06:30:16

Em
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Re: Write a bad book?

I write horrible books.


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#7 2009-11-13 11:44:50

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Re: Write a bad book?

I can guarantee mine are the horrible-est. :)


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#8 2009-11-13 13:23:29

Rook
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Re: Write a bad book?

People, people ... we're all horrible!

I any case, I'm going to have to count my one fanfiction as my horrible novel, 'cuz I don't know if I have the time to write both a bad novel and a good novel. :)


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#9 2010-04-01 14:46:22

MORfiction
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Re: Write a bad book?

Did I write a bad book? Try twelve! haha!

 

#10 2011-10-19 20:52:15

SecretSquirrel
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Re: Write a bad book?

I can't knock this. I wrote a couple books back in the 90's and 2000's that were terrible. But now I can go back over the plot outlines and make them really stand out. Banging out stuff will make you more dynamic. You kind of feel yourself begin to see things differently and build up paragraphs in a better way after awhile.

You may jump away from really bad plots that seemed ok at the time. I think the first stories I ever wrote were about a guy who finds a dragon egg. Yeah, I know. But this is like the entry level for this kind of stuff. You have to write a little Dragonlance before you write Martin, a little Lloyd Alexander before you write Leiber.

You learn to fill in the holes, add richness, and be more dynamic and find your own voice eventually. You learn what the difference is between the straight roads and the less trodden paths.

I suggest something like a chase novel like Lord of the Rings book 1 to start out. You will learn a great deal about fantasy writing that way. Eye of the World also would work, or a Belgriad rip-off. A Koontz style book might be good if you are writing horror. Write a plot device story for science fiction, such as I robot or Minority Report. I think it would be cool to write a story about Filch trying to kill Harry Potter with an old shotgun, but he keeps having his attempts thwarted by the stuff that happens in the books.

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#11 2011-10-19 21:02:37

Rook
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Re: Write a bad book?

Just wanted to say thanks for digging this one up, Squirrel.  I completely forgot about this, and I failed to take my own advice.  Now onward to write my horrible, horrible novel!


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