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#1 2007-04-11 03:40:00

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The moving Paifang

a place to discuss films (or movies, if you like) from Asia. Although there might be an emphasis on China/Hong Kong and Japan, every other region (Korea, India, Thailand...) is welcome.

 

#2 2007-04-11 03:49:00

rimses
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Re: The moving Paifang

last viewed: The Seven Swords by Tsui Hark. another 2.5 hours martial arts epic with a historical/mythological backdrop based on a chinese wuxia novel. maybe i post a review later on (after watching it again).

 

#3 2007-04-11 05:07:00

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Re: The moving Paifang

i haven't seen a lot movies of this genre YET,i wasn't very interested, i admit

HERO was a turning point for me,though

are there more masterpieces like that out there?
(have seen tiger&dragon and didn't like it very much,so don't bother)


and:what the heck is a paifang?

[ April 11, 2007: Message edited by: sisterdew ]


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#4 2007-04-11 05:55:00

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Re: The moving Paifang

Originally posted by sisterdew:
[QB]

are there more masterpieces like that out there?

and:what the heck is a paifang?

[QB]

Tiger and Dragon by Ang Lee sort of revitalised the whole genre of martial arts movies and made it interesting again for western audiences, even for the critics at major european film festivals. it is not one of my favourites, either. another masterpiece in that direction would be House of Flying Daggers by Zhang Yimou. Much less epic than Hero , but more focused on the characters.

A paifang is sort of an architectonical structure, like an archway. i donīt know more, but the word to me sounds cool enough for a neighborhood name...

 

#5 2007-04-11 09:12:00

Jendaiya
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Re: The moving Paifang

I liked Hero better than House of Flying Daggers, for some reason. I'm not sure exactly why...


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#6 2007-04-11 09:14:00

chamberk
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Re: The moving Paifang

Wong Kar-Wai is pretty good.  I saw "In the Mood for Love" and that was a pretty solid movie.

I also like Stephen Chow.  He's kind of silly but who says silliness is bad?  (No one who posts in the Dogblog, that's for damn sure.)


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#7 2007-04-11 09:21:00

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Re: The moving Paifang

I'm getting a copy of Takashi Miike's Ichi the Killer. I've heard it's either absolutely horrible or incredibly wonderful. Im betting on horrible, but I'm still looking forward to it. :)

And welcome for your topic, this is a great idea. :)


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#8 2007-04-11 09:23:00

chamberk
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Re: The moving Paifang

Oh, and if anybody hasn't seen it, Korea's "Oldboy" is a fantastic movie.  I hear it's part of a trilogy (thematically, at least) but it stands really well on its own.


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#9 2007-04-11 11:33:00

Sahi
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Re: The moving Paifang

I've only seen one Japanese movie that I'm aware of. And we totally didn't get it. Some collection of short movies, that I've totally forgotten the title of. Haven't got a clue what they were about either. (But that's not surprising, seeing how I didn't get them.)

Yalahii.


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#10 2007-04-12 01:30:00

Jendaiya
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Re: The moving Paifang

LOVED Ichi the Killer.

*is happy*


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#11 2007-04-12 02:38:00

shadowsandice
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Re: The moving Paifang

Jendaiya wrote:

I liked Hero better than House of Flying Daggers, for some reason. I'm not sure exactly why...

I was very disappointed by HoFD.  I found it unbalanced, and with character issues.


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#12 2007-04-12 03:43:00

rimses
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Re: The moving Paifang

the Koreans seem to be in the position that filmmakers from Hong Kong claimed in the late 80īs / early 90īs. it is still almost unknown territory for me, though.

Miike? brrr... maybe i will give Audition a try someday.

to throw in another name: Kitano. his Zatoichi is fantastic.

 

#13 2007-04-12 15:27:00

Jendaiya
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Re: The moving Paifang

I've heard Audition was pretty good. I don't know what it's about, but then I didn't know what Ichi was about til I watched that.

Why would you only *maybe* watch Audition? Have you heard it's not good? I heard Ichi was terrible, and it was. But it was terrible in a funny/good/pretty way. :)


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#14 2007-04-12 17:59:00

Em
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Re: The moving Paifang

Audition is worse that Ichi. *shudders*

It is not what I would call "entertainment."


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#15 2007-04-13 10:30:00

Ren
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Re: The moving Paifang

LOVE Ichi...villain in there is in a kind of goofy Japanese gangaster movie called "Sharksin Man and Peach Hip Girl.

"House of Flying Daggers" makes myself and my two friends who went to see it with me twitchy...it should have ended 30+ minutes earlier than it did...drawing out a death-scene for 40 minutes is just DAMN ridiculous...I wanted to stand up in the theatre and say "Just F****ING DIE already!"
*twitch*

"Oldboy" is another stange Korean action/gangster/violnce-prone/Psychological movie that has some VERY bizzare twists in it, though I do highly reccomend it. I want to go and See the Korean monster flick out now before it goes away.

Back in Mass I had friends that were big into Kung-Fu Flicks so we got to see a lot that varied between good and hysterically 0ver-the-top ("Dragon Inn" and "Butterfly sword" qualify in the latter category). "Storm-riders" was pretty cool and had some VERY nice effects. "Warrirors of Zu" had incredible effects, but the story was a mess.

"Curse of the Golden Flower" was a Phenomenal movie, simply gorgeous to watch and Chow Yun Fat was awesome as the Villain thoguh I think Ging Li stole the show with her acting.
And The Cleavage Displays didn't hurt my enjoyment of the movie either, but I'm a guy...not for everyone I guess. The sets were gorgeous too, such an amazing riot of colors.

I liked "Hero" too, nice story, interesting Cinemetography and I liked how each story had a different color associated with it.


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#16 2007-04-13 12:09:00

Em
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Re: The moving Paifang

"Oldboy" was a very interesting movie, I liked the story muchly.

I wouldn't have seen a lot of these movies, but Alexandra, my whacko oldest daughter, likes them, so she collects them.

She's a film student.

[ April 13, 2007: Message edited by: Em ]


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#17 2007-04-13 16:18:00

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Re: The moving Paifang

I love asian films...I just don't feel too much for what I call "Just Kung-fu" films... where there actually only fighting without much of a story...

Hero was great although I had to watch it twice to see the greatness in it...

Seven swords is again a very good story...and I love the "magical" swords-idea...

Oldboy...well what can you say... very very nice...

Then another one, Ong-Bak, which was amazing once I finally got myself to watch it ( I thought it was more Kung-fu kinda film but it wasn't)...

Of course in my list is also a nice place for Chrouching Tiger, hidden dragon which was just amazing and the film that started me extending my interest to asian "fight" films...

Then on to a more obscure couple;

Batoru Rowaiaru about a group of schoolkids being put on an island with different kinds of weapons and one mission...to kill until only one remains... And I must say, even though the idea is just too much, the film was just excellent...

Darn...I forgot the other one's name... but it's kinda gross... lots of death and blood and masses of weirdness...

And then in a totally different category... and one of my all time favourite films:
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter and Spring no words needed there... I've never had a film in which basically nothing happens, and which has almost no dialogue, touch me so deep...

And now for my next one... still waiting for the right mood, as I have the feeling this is going to be very much quite weird... Bright Future....


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#18 2007-04-13 17:20:00

Jendaiya
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Re: The moving Paifang

Em wrote:

Audition is worse that Ichi. *shudders*

It is not what I would call "entertainment."

Oo

Worse than Ichi? In what way? As in stupid awful or too icky?


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#19 2007-04-13 17:23:00

Em
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Re: The moving Paifang

Well, it is not more gory that Ichi, but ... you might like it. Alexandra says it is better, but I didn't think so.

Alexandra's favorite Korean movie is "Sympathy for Mr. Vengence."


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#20 2007-04-13 17:26:00

Em
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Re: The moving Paifang

Alexandra says I have to say that I haven't actually seen the whole of Audition, but the parts that I saw ....


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#21 2007-04-13 17:28:00

Em
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Re: The moving Paifang

So, I guess I'll have to watch the WHOLE thing and report back to you.


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#22 2007-04-15 12:07:00

Jendaiya
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Re: The moving Paifang

Watched Ichi again. Loved it more. :)


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#23 2007-04-16 06:52:00

Ren
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Re: The moving Paifang

Movie Review Time!

Children of Men: Clive Owen, Julianne Moore, Chiwetel Ejiofor, Michael Caine.
It's billed as a sci-fi flick, but it has none of the guns in space and big monsters ro aliens you'd expect. It's a strange sort of film altogether, but enjoyable regardless. The sci-fi comes form it being a near-future story in which humanity has lost the ability to have children for reasons unknown and it's been lost for 18 years. The movie is pretty much a look at where humanity could go in such a situation. Insert a disillusioned former activist who is asked to help escort a you woman to the coast who is the first pregnant woman in eighteen years. There's a lot of unexpected twists and turns in the story which made it very refreshing and ALL of the acting was top-notch. (Chiwetel Ejiofor is all set to blow up big on the small screen, STRONG actor!) There are quite a few 'action' scenes but they're very realistically done including a street-level battle between a military/police unit and some refugees holed up in a building.
I highly reccomend watching the film at least once to decide for yourselves if you like it or not; ultimately I DID enjoy it in the end, though it left me feeling kind of depressed at the end...still worth watching.

Shaun of the Dead: Simon Pegg, Nick Frost, Kate Ashfield.
I'd heard a lot of good things about this movie but had avoided it because I'm not much of a Zombie flick fan, but with the same production companies new movie "Hot Fuzz" coming out soon I figured I owed them a look-see at this film and I was NOT dissapointed! Comedy and mild horror mixed with some very good dramatic bits and acting I throughly enjoyed. I will definatley be adding this to my DVD collection in the near future. Highly enjoyable movie!


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#24 2007-04-16 12:47:00

rimses
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Re: The moving Paifang

Running out ouf Time by Johnnie To Kei Fung. Great film, with a versatile Andy Lau. Although this one goes more into the mainstream direction, i donīt think a film like that could come from hollywood. really no much action, but focus on characters, with great ironic undertones. will have to check out Toīs never works as well.

 

#25 2007-04-17 05:39:00

flamebringer69
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Re: The moving Paifang

i just saw a ad for the curse of the golden flower tonight. i so want to see it. the scale of war in the preview was very impressive.

i like those kinds of battle sceens.

but my most fondest memories are the asia movies that were put out during the 60 and 70's. lots of swords and such. my memory is shot on titles from then. but i still remember the actiona nd old story lines. like they kind of are doing with anime now.

sorry put i really have a thing for anime.


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