- Miiru
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Why I despise and loathe my ex husband, parte... oh, I'
x-posted to my LJ. Because nothing says I hate you like internet spam.
My ex husband is very shortly moving to the beach, three hours away, and taking my son with him. He thinks that 'letting' me see my boy every weekend and probably summers too is enough to fulfill a joint custody agreement-- granted, not court ordered, but still: on paper, legal joint custody. He thinks that's generous of him. He thinks he is being reasonable and easygoing and thinks I am going to just roll over and take it from him without putting up any kind of protest, token or otherwise. I think this is wrong. I think this is selfish of him, and I don't mean regarding my feelings: I mean his son's. I don't think it's right for him to uproot the kid from his friends, his school, his church, the rest of his family, and his mother, simply because the ex wants to be out on the coast. And of course he's got justifications for this-- I won't list them here; they're flimsy and obviously concocted to make his decision seem more reasonable-- but I don't buy it as anything more than R doing what R wants to do yet again, without taking anyone but himself into consideration.
What upsets me the most-- I know I'm right. I know this is not in my son's best interests, regardless of what my feelings on the matter may or may not be. But I can't afford a custody battle. And he knows it. He makes a great deal more money than I do and if worst comes to worst he can just keep feeding money to his lawyers until I run out of cash and have to give up.
That's the reason I don't have primary custody in the first place-- I work at night, and at the time couldn't afford to find anything else. I am paid very well to work at night, and had back bills to pay off, and there was no real reason to find a different job, because it worked out that I saw my son nearly half the time, although technically R had primary custody because that was where J slept most nights.
Now, though--
He says he's not trying to take my son away, but in practice, I feel that's what this boils down to. Eight days a month and summer vacations are not enough.
I don't want this to be a custody battle. I don't want to put my son through what I went through; I don't want to start throwing money, time, energy and emotional resources into the bottomless pit that will wind up being.
I don't. But I don't know what else to do, aside from let him have his own way and see what happens in the next year or so. I don't know. I can't stop crying long enough to think.
Am I wrong? Am I being unreasonable over this? Am I missing something? He keeps saying to look at the positives as well as the negatives but as far as I can see there aren't any. Yeah, beach; hooray! I can come out any time I want to, yippee! And rent a hotel for thirty bucks a night (something I really won't be able to afford if I do what I want to and go back to school this fall); spend money on gas in a car that gets utter crap gas mileage to either drive three hours each way to pick up my kid or three hours total to meet R halfway. Every weekend. Or I could move out there, yay! Wouldn't that be awesome? Pack up my life yet again and rearrange it at his whim.
I don't *think* so.
Also I'm out of kleenex.
[edit cos I said a Bad Word]
[ April 03, 2007: Message edited by: Miiru ]
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- deegec
- Pilgrim
- From: Houston (Katy), Texas
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Re: Why I despise and loathe my ex husband, parte... oh, I'
Well, I don't have anything wise to say, so I won't try, but I can hate your ex with you, offer more kleenex and a shoulder to cry on.
*hugs*
- Em
- Mantis
- From: somewhere left of reality
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Re: Why I despise and loathe my ex husband, parte... oh, I'
PILES AND PILES OF *HUGS*
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- Magpie
- Mantis
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Re: Why I despise and loathe my ex husband, parte... oh, I'
*hugs*
I can barely imagine what it must feel like... but it makes me so sad that you have been put in this situation. I wish I had anything more useful to say.
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- AJ
- Pilgrim
- From: Quebec
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Re: Why I despise and loathe my ex husband, parte... oh, I'
Good grief Miiru, I can't imagine what your situation must be like to go through. I do know divorce is never a good/nice experience to go through without involving children. I guess all I can do is offer sympathy and *hugs*, and lots of both.
- Libra-in-a-roundabout-way
- Mantis
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Re: Why I despise and loathe my ex husband, parte... oh, I'
Many huggles, Miiru... I know it's not much but I'm really sorry!
"If you say that getting the money is the most important thing, you will spend you life completely wasting your time. You'll be doing things you don't like doing in order to go on living, that is, to go on doing things you don't like doing... which is stupid." ~ Alan Watts
- Jaime
- Pilgrim
- From: Wilmington, NC
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Re: Why I despise and loathe my ex husband, parte... oh, I'
What's really sad is it's not going to be every weekend, and you know it. It's going to be every other weekend, maybe once a month, depending on -his- whims.
But, as you know, life may take me down to that same vicinity; you and I can room on the coast as easily as we can in High Point, if you think it's worth it to make the change.
Failing that, the kneecap smashing offer has no expiration date!
Yield to temptation; it may not pass your way again.
-- Heinlein
- Sahi
- Mantis
- From: Assendelft (the Netherlands)
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Re: Why I despise and loathe my ex husband, parte... oh, I'
Oh man, that sucks! Have you asked your son what he thinks? How old is he anyway?
*hugs*
Yalahii.
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- Miiru
- Pilgrim
- From: Just a bit left of center.
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Re: Why I despise and loathe my ex husband, parte... oh, I'
He's seven, and is understandably torn about it. His dad, of course, has presented this move in the shiney-happy ooh look we get to live at the BEACH how cool is that?! facet, but the kid's astute enough to understand that this means he won't see his friends anymore, or the rest of his family that are staying here, or me. And he is upset about that, although he hasn't said as much to his dad, apparently.
He's one of those kids that reads people really well, and won't say something if he thinks it'll upset you. He knows that "but what about my mom?" isn't what his dad wants to hear, so he doesn't say it.
I dunno. Maybe after this summer, Jaime, if you're down there-- maybe we can do something. Because I *really* can't afford a custody battle. Not just in money; right now I don't have the emotional resources for it, even if I won the friggin' lottery tomorrow and was set for life.
But I suppose I can go to school in Wilmington as easily as I can Greensboro. It's just annoying that *yet again* I'd be rearranging my life around that jacka--'s whims.
Thanks for your support, guys. It means an incredible amount. :)
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- Jendaiya
- Pilgrim
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Re: Why I despise and loathe my ex husband, parte... oh, I'
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The Idiot, by Dostoevsky
- Binky
- Pilgrim
- From: New Zealand
- Registered: 2001-06-13
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Re: Why I despise and loathe my ex husband, parte... oh, I'
Get some legal advice, now. It may not be as big a drama to get a court order against the move as you think, if you have joint custody. Hell, I think even if you didn't have joint custody, you could get some leverage there. I don't know how the legal system works where you are, and I think it varies from state to state. But even if you can't afford to go the whole hog, having a letter from a lawyer saying "you can't do this" puts you in a much better position to negotiate than just asking nicely (or even not very nicely). It might be enough to convince your ex to drive your son the whole way there and back, for example.
Are there any Community Law Centres near you, or places that give advice to women, or students, or anything you can use?
- Wolfshade
- Pilgrim
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Re: Why I despise and loathe my ex husband, parte... oh, I'
Sorry to hear about your troubles, Miiru. I feel especially sorry for the boy, who sounds like a really cool kid. My only advice, and it's totally uninformed, is to try to help your ex realize his selfishness. I obviously don't know if he has the personality to feel guilty for what he's doing, but sometimes the big picture doesn't come across in conversation because there's too much to keep track of. Maybe write him and calmly detail the things that you don't find fair? Maybe that'll openhis eyes? At least he can't ignore them in that case, assuming he reads it. I know writing things down is often a legal no-no, so be careful and smart if you choose such a method.
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- Binky
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Re: Why I despise and loathe my ex husband, parte... oh, I'
That's good advice, but it's more likely to work if you have a strong negotiating position to start with.
Even on a purely personal level, there's nothing more empowering than the feeling of strength you get when you say "let's do this my way" and it happens. Judging by the above story, you sound like you could do with a bit of that.
- dragondawn
- Pilgrim
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Re: Why I despise and loathe my ex husband, parte... oh, I'
my main response will be in your LJ, but i did want to post a hug for you here as well.
AAAAND i wanted to post here cuz i had a brainstorm while reading the responses here: are there any smarchers who know any good family law attorneys in the NC area who do the odd pro-bono case? because this would be a perfect fit for someone like that. and never underestimate the power of the Smarch Network. *nod*
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- strangeshe
- Hierarch
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- Binky
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- Firsfron of Ronchester
- Mantis
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Re: Why I despise and loathe my ex husband, parte... oh, I'
So sorry to hear all this, Miiru. I have no useful advice to offer, though... Listen to the wise Smarchers above for good advice. And hang in there! :)
- Stuart
- Pilgrim
- From: Yorkshire
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Re: Why I despise and loathe my ex husband, parte... oh, I'
I don't know how lucky I am, and I can't imagine how painful this would be. I do get very angry that justice is distributed in proportion to income, blind justice my arse!
Good friends of ours have been through a similar situation where her ex husband wanted to take one of their 3 children with him and his new wife to canada. She now has custody of all 3.
Good luck for you and your son.
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- Miiru
- Pilgrim
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Re: Why I despise and loathe my ex husband, parte... oh, I'
Thanks, Binky. :) Good advice, and great link.
And ~hugs~ to everyone, and thanks for your support. It helps; it does it does.
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- sisterdew
- Pilgrim
- From: Vienna, Austria
- Registered: 2007-01-08
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Re: Why I despise and loathe my ex husband, parte... oh, I'
all the best!*hug*
if you can,kick him in the *bleep*(if it helps yourself and doesn't worsen your position,that is)
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- Pretzalz
- Pilgrim
- From: USA
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Re: Why I despise and loathe my ex husband, parte... oh, I'
Miiru wrote:He's seven, and is understandably torn about it. His dad, of course, has presented this move in the shiney-happy ooh look we get to live at the BEACH how cool is that?! facet,
I know this isn't close to the most important issue, but who wants to live at the beach in the winter. Most beaches are sort of ghost towns in the winter, though I'm not sure about NC. The sinister part of me almost wants to say its part of your ex's master plan to get your son to resent the fact that when beach weather actually comes around in the summer he'll 'have' to leave the beach to live with you.
Jane: Ohh, you are trying to deal with your loneliness by surrounding yourself with friends, hmm, how's that going to work?
- Miiru
- Pilgrim
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Re: Why I despise and loathe my ex husband, parte... oh, I'
I'd thought of that too. And believe me, it grates.
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- Malachy_Sunblade
- Pilgrim
- From: Michigan
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Re: Why I despise and loathe my ex husband, parte... oh, I'
Damn, Miiru, I'm sorry to hear you're going through that. I'll keep you in my thoughts and keep an ear to the ground to see what I can find out about your situation.
"A strong enough metaphor creates its own truth" M.W. Stover, The Blade of Tyshall.
- goofytortuga
- Pilgrim
- From: California
- Registered: 2002-07-06
- Posts: 277
Re: Why I despise and loathe my ex husband, parte... oh, I'
Adds hugs and s shoulder to cry on. And will kick him in the privates if need be.
I hope everything works out. It sounds like a tough place to be in.
- cyan
- Mantis
- From: Oakland
- Registered: 2005-02-16
- Posts: 22846
Re: Why I despise and loathe my ex husband, parte... oh, I'
*hugs Miiru*
This sort of S**t is damned ugly! Bf has been living this nightmare for nearly 2 years now, and far worse. His ex took their son and moved to Salem, OR, 600 miles away! That be a 12-14 hour drive depending on weather and how much you're willing to risk a speeding ticket. And there WAS AND STILL IS a court-directed joint custody agreement in place!
I'm soooo sorry that you're looking at a similar situation, it's truly awful!
*morehugs*
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