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#51 2006-09-02 04:42:00

shadowsandice
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Re: The Man, the Myth, the Dog

Miirumelted wrote:

BUAHA

God, you are not right. :D ~love~

I emphatically ditto this.  That is so wrong (yet so very right).


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#52 2006-09-02 06:43:00

Jaime
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Re: The Man, the Myth, the Dog

baha!  I foresee a new avatar for another forum...


Yield to temptation; it may not pass your way again.

-- Heinlein

 

#53 2006-09-02 07:54:00

Genisis X
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Re: The Man, the Myth, the Dog

Use the funk luke.

-X


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#54 2006-09-02 15:07:00

The Microphone
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Re: The Man, the Myth, the Dog

STOP!

Jedi time!


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But you couldn't find a decent man, or a word spoken kind.

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#55 2006-09-02 17:10:00

Viduus
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Re: The Man, the Myth, the Dog

"I see your schwartz is as big as mine... but do you know how to use it?!"


Kamiko:
"Yeah, the power of Gods. That's why we do this writing stuff anyway :P"

Cackalacky Matt Jay:
"It's to appease our inner megalomaniacs. ;-)"

 

#56 2006-09-03 13:10:00

Tad
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Re: The Man, the Myth, the Dog

Somebody once wrote on one of our local stop signs -- right under the word "STOP" -- "Hammer Time!"

I wonder how many people bumped into things when they finally got it.

It wasn't me, by the way.  That's why it was so cool.  Some weirdo in the redwoods.


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- Tom Waits

 

#57 2006-09-03 13:32:00

Miiru
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Re: The Man, the Myth, the Dog

We thought you *were* the weirdo in the redwoods. I feel so betrayed. ~sob~


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#58 2006-09-03 13:58:00

dragondawn
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Re: The Man, the Myth, the Dog

bandit wrote:




????? perhaps?

[ September 01, 2006: Message edited by: bandit ]

BWAH!!


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#59 2006-09-04 11:32:00

Stuart
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Re: The Man, the Myth, the Dog

My best man, and at the time colleague, was called Hamer, not an exact match, but it was close enough for a daily and gratuitous STOP! or the odd cheeky, U can't touch this.

Prey the whole message R2.


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#60 2006-09-04 13:06:00

bandit
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Re: The Man, the Myth, the Dog

Funnily I *was* going to post this gif I have of a guy in running shorts madly humping a tree for god knows what reason, but...you know. to to me, that is the future perfect.


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#61 2006-09-04 15:09:00

Binky
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Re: The Man, the Myth, the Dog

Wow, I was at a party on Saturday night where "U Can't Touch This" was cranked out, in such a way that would have been cool and ironic were it not for the fact that we were all drunk and enjoying it too much.

 

#62 2006-09-05 11:29:00

Tad
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Re: The Man, the Myth, the Dog

Irony is going to be the cocaine of the 21st century.  Just when everyone starts doing something all the time is when it becomes obvious that it's dangerous (and ultimately boring.)

Pssst.  C'mere, kids.  Wanna try a little sincerity?


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- Tom Waits

 

#63 2006-09-05 12:04:00

Viduus
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Re: The Man, the Myth, the Dog

I thoroughly enjoy irony in daily life.
And ironically "Isn't it ironic" by Alanis Morissette has nothing ironic in it. :o


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Cackalacky Matt Jay:
"It's to appease our inner megalomaniacs. ;-)"

 

#64 2006-09-05 12:13:00

Stuart
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Re: The Man, the Myth, the Dog

What you lookin' at, no sincere!


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#65 2006-09-05 12:24:00

Magpie
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Re: The Man, the Myth, the Dog

Family joke: "That was iroooooooonic!" Could be heard at least once a day when my youngest brother was too little to understand about irony.
The new apprentice girl keeps commenting my ironic comments about all and everything with, "are you always this funny?" I just hope she's not being ironic here - I don't think of myself as a particularly funny person.


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#66 2006-09-05 19:22:00

rybolton
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Re: The Man, the Myth, the Dog

I appreciate irony as much as the next guy but when someone says "That's so ironic!" I'm usually disappointed that its not ironic at all, merely coincidental.  At moments like that I'm always reminded of what George Carlin said, "Irony deals with opposites; it has nothing to do with coincidence.

If two baseball players from the same hometown, on different teams, receive the same uniform number, it is not ironic. It is a coincidence. If Barry Bonds attains lifetime statistics identical to his father's, it will not be ironic. It will be a coincidence.

Irony is "a state of affairs that is the reverse of what was to be expected; a result opposite to and in mockery of the appropriate result." For instance: a diabetic, on his way to buy insulin, is killed by a runaway truck. He is the victim of an accident. If the truck was delivering sugar, he is the victim of an oddly poetic coincidence. But if the truck was delivering insulin, ah! Then he is the victim of an irony.

If a Kurd, after surviving bloody battle with Saddam Hussein’s army and a long, difficult escape through the mountains, is crushed and killed by a parachute drop of humanitarian aid, that, my friend, is irony writ large.

Darryl Stingley, the pro football player, was paralyzed after a brutal hit by Jack Tatum. Now Darryl Stingley’s son plays football, and if the son should become paralyzed while playing, it will not be ironic. It will be coincidental. If Darryl Stingley’s son paralyzes someone else, that will be closer to ironic. If he paralyzes Jack Tatum’s son, that will be precisely ironic."


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#67 2006-09-05 19:33:00

Binky
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Re: The Man, the Myth, the Dog

I remember a comedy skit by an Irish guy, who was outraged at Alanis Morissette's supposed irony, and outlined what it really was (a pain in the bum, mainly).  His girlfriend, so he said, admonished him that it was more in the nature of a metaphor.  "No!" he exclaimed.  "It's like rain on your wedding day.  That's a SIMILE!"

 

#68 2006-09-05 19:59:00

bandit
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Re: The Man, the Myth, the Dog

Everytime I hear the lyrics for "Ironic" I remember these spots that MTV was running with this grody cab driver who would like, imitate a music video in his cab. So for "Ironic" it featured him in many different sweaters in different parts of the car, mangling the lyrics. "It's like raaaay-eeeee-aaaaayn! on a rainy day!" "It's like meeting the girl of your dreams and finding out she's five!" Sweet stuff.

So since then, I always have to sing, "It's like rain on a rainy day!" whenever someone talks about that song. Which usually just leads to them correcting me cause they (naturally) dont get the reference, and then they point out that the use of "ironic" in "Ironic" isnt even ironic at all! And I kill myself inside a little bit more.


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#69 2006-09-06 01:04:00

Stuart
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Re: The Man, the Myth, the Dog

I know who did it, it's there in black and white, who went and opened the ironic box again?

(Clearly a rhetorical question)

It still makes me laugh that people 'over here' point this out as an example of how you Americans don't really get irony.

Rain on your wedding day could be ironic, if say you'd actually done something to try and avoid it but by that very action you caused it (admittedly these are events beyond our control and contradiction of this is pure vanity).

The very nature of irony is changing; much like any living language once the majority misuse it, in a specific way of course, it becomes the accepted practice. Alternately, oh such a good example of the above, just be obscure and claim irony.


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#70 2006-09-06 06:37:00

bandit
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Re: The Man, the Myth, the Dog

Stuart wrote:

It still makes me laugh that people 'over here' point this out as an example of how you Americans don't really get irony.

Also Alanis is canadian. So I suppose I can point this out as an example of how you british dont really get geography. :D


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Tom Servo: No, he smells like apples.
- MST3K

 

#71 2006-09-06 07:02:00

Stuart
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Re: The Man, the Myth, the Dog

I somewhat suspect you really did miss the whole point, i.e. that she is not American, don't worry I was only being ironic.


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#72 2006-09-06 07:07:00

bandit
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Re: The Man, the Myth, the Dog

D'oh! Well it was 5:30am when I posted that, in my defense. Also, this irony - it can be exchanged for goods and/or services?


Crow: I think Ray Liotta would make an okay werewolf.
Tom Servo: No, he smells like apples.
- MST3K

 

#73 2006-09-06 09:16:00

Em
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Re: The Man, the Myth, the Dog

bandit wrote:

D'oh! Well it was 5:30am when I posted that, in my defense. Also, this irony - it can be exchanged for goods and/or services?

*points to sign on the wall*

"Exchanges only for store credit.
Wasted time not refunded."


Someday will find you.

 

#74 2006-09-06 09:54:00

Stuart
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Re: The Man, the Myth, the Dog

We can supply an irony service at reasonable rate.

$4 per shirk.

For pants see the Dog.

Need to go, work pressing.

*is saddened by laughing at his own joke*


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#75 2006-09-06 10:31:00

Viduus
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Re: The Man, the Myth, the Dog

Hm, in defense of Canadians, it should also be noted that Alanis was practically a teen when she wrote that, and *everyone* knows that teens don't understand irony. Or much else of a literary nature, for that matter. :p


Kamiko:
"Yeah, the power of Gods. That's why we do this writing stuff anyway :P"

Cackalacky Matt Jay:
"It's to appease our inner megalomaniacs. ;-)"

 

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