- Rajan
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Friends in the Biz
Tad - I was just wondering which people in your business (i.e. other authors, etc.) do you consider friends, or at least close colleagues? I suppose it is just to satisfy my own curiosity, but I often wonder what kind of camaraderie exists at your level. Would you care to share your impressions?
- Tad
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Re: Friends in the Biz
I used to consider a whole bunch of other writers friends, and I guess still do, except that I don't see them very often. Then again, since we had kids I don't see much of anyone very often.
A lot of the DAW authors are buddies, Melanie Rawn, Jennifer Roberson, Kate Elliott, Mickey Zucker, and more. I used to see a lot of Katherine Kerr and her husband, but they've fallen into the "we never get out so we never see anyone," category.
I like Greg Bear a lot, too, but we don't see him or his wonderful wife very often these days. I do my best to visit with folks like Steve Brust or Neil Gaiman when I get the chance -- again, not much recently -- and I have author-friends in England like Roz Kaveney, Kim Newman, and Michael Marshall Smith that I'd see a lot more if we were still in the same country.
This is turning into another list, so I'll stop. I could keep adding people, because there are lots of writers I like and have been friendly with, and I'm worried now I'm going to leave someone out.
"God bless your crooked little heart." - Tom Waits
- Con§pire
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Re: Friends in the Biz
Tad,
Funny you isn't it, You have children to improve you outlook on life and then you have a lot less life to explore, with all your time and effort going into your kids!! Well at least it is for me. My wife and I had our first little girl in May and now !we don't get out much. I know that is to be expected. We used to go and have quite romantic dinners at least once a week. To catch up with each others thoughts and feelings about things. Now we both know what each other is thinking. WE NEED SLEEP!!!
I love being a dad
Come on in.. take off your skin and rattle around in your bones.
Do what you must... but must you do that?
- Tad
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Re: Friends in the Biz
I love being a dad, too. But it's like adding another full-time job on top of the rest of your life -- a full-time job that you can't ever walk away from, or call in sick, or blow off and go to the movies.
Still, I'll have plenty of time to myself when they're in that "I hate you! You never do anything for me! Get out of my room!" stage in about ten years or so.
And they're beautiful...
"God bless your crooked little heart." - Tom Waits
- Rajan
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I was in my bedroom last night listening to a Tori Amos album and I suddenly had the thought - Tad knows Neil Gaiman, and Neil knows Tori, so does Tad know Tori? I know this kind of question is of no importance at all, but once aroused, my curiosity is not easily sated. I suppose I'm playing a kind of 'Six Degrees of Tad Williams' kind of thing.
If only I could harness by brain power for good...
- Miiru
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YAY!! My three favorite (never-met) people in one post!!! Tad, Neil and Tori... yummy.
Tad- being a mother has been the most wonderful, frustrating, educating, enriching, maddening experience of my life. I wouldn't trade it for anything. I was very young when my son was born (which means, I suppose, that I'm still very young, as he is only 2), so I get to play with him before the energy is gone. I enjoy losing myself in play with him: it's so freeing, to be seen by another human being for exactly who I am, with no prejudices, no judgements, nothing but pure love and enjoyment of my company. It's humbling. When I am with my son, I realize just how false I have become as I grow older. I suppose it is just a response to the world, but it would be so nice to be able to let the facade go and be like he is again. Is it even possible? Somehow, I doubt it. And it IS a full-time job. I wish I could devote all my time and energy to it, but given the state of general finances, I will have to allow for another full-time job as well to help pay the bills (fear not, however, there is plenty of room in the budget for an eventual Shadowmarch subscription, as well as one for my sister as a B-day pres. :)
So yeah. I'm a mom... and I'm so da... er, darn proud of it, I could scream it from the rooftops! You with me? :D
Ted Kennedy in a speedo is just another sign of the coming apocalypse. -wiked
- Tad
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Re: Friends in the Biz
Proud? Oh, yeah. But has a power beyond even that (as I'm sure it does for you, too) because I love my kids so much that even seeing a picture of one of them can almost make me cry, even if the actual child is asleep only ten feet away, close and safe. This parenting thing is a kind of overwhelming experience, in a number of different ways.
(One of them being the blow-up-your-head variety, as mentiond before.)
But when my son says something hysterically, unintentionally weird ("Oh!" he announced the other day as we were driving somewhere, "Today is my hiccup day!") or my daughter gives me that "I don't care what you say, I'm going to do it anyway" look of someone who is not going to be cowed by life, yeah, pride. Kvelling is the Yiddish word for it, I think.
And, no, I don't know Tori Amos. But I'm pretty sure I'd like her a lot if I did.
"God bless your crooked little heart." - Tom Waits
- Rajan
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That's very touching. I hope that one day I get to experience that.
- Tad
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Re: Friends in the Biz
Yeah, but enjoy the not-having-kids part now, kehvain, the freedom and spontaneity, because that's the bit you can't get back for about ten or fifteen years once you set out down the path of parenting.
Jeez, do I miss just getting up and going out to a movie on the spur of the moment. Or eating in a restaurant that doesn't serve grilled cheese sandwiches. Not that I have anything against grilled cheese sandwiches...
It also would be nice to walk across the living room carpet in bare feet without finding banana slices from last week. By surprise.
Particularly disturbing in the middle of the night.
Oh, it's a wonderful experience, all right. But I wouldn't mind a few days relief from the sound of a pissed-off 19-month-old shrieking and banging her head on the floor in frustration because we won't let her crayon the walls or yank off the cat's tail...
"God bless your crooked little heart." - Tom Waits
- Rajan
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Well, that puts things into perspective. I know I'm not ready for that for some time. I think I need a bit more stability in my life first anyway. But I think about it happening some day - but I don't want to enter into that commitment without knowing I'm ready to accept it - I don't know, maybe you're never really prepared, but I think there are a few too many people who don't understand what it means.
Now I'm just babbling.
- Gabe Chouinard
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Tad wrote: I do my best to visit with folks like Steve Brust or Neil Gaiman when I get the chance
Hey, now I know why you recognized my name the first time I emailed you oh-so-long-ago.
- Tad
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Why, because you were visiting with Steve or Neil the last time I saw them? Was that you hiding behind the minibar? I knew I didn't eat all those cashews myself.
"God bless your crooked little heart." - Tom Waits
- Gabe Chouinard
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Re: Friends in the Biz
Tad wrote:Why, because you were visiting with Steve or Neil the last time I saw them? Was that you hiding behind the minibar? I knew I didn't eat all those cashews myself.
Hiding? I think they call it "passed out".
So, do you know Bruce Bethke and his wonderful wife? I know they're good friends with Steve Brust.
- jasonius
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Re: Friends in the Biz
Tad, just wondering how this famous writers writing nice things about the new book thing works...on the back of SoSL Katherine Kerr says "one of the best works of science fiction i've ever read." Tad, you admitted she is one of your writer friends, do you just phone her up and ask her to write something nice about your latest book or what? or do you have to pay her?!!! i noticed that there is a member here called "KK"....
-------- "Or like a poet woo the moon, riding an armchair for my steed, and with a flashing pen, harpoon terrific metaphors of speed."-Roy Campbell
- Binky
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Re: Friends in the Biz
I noticed that too, but I think I checked KK's profile and it was totally different from Katharine Kerr's (who goes by "Kit").
Kit's got her own mailing list with yahoo groups and, though she hasn't been around too much lately (I think she's writing another book) she pops in and chats on all sorts of subjects.
I have to pinch myself sometimes, getting on first name terms with my favourite writers.
- Tad
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Jasonius: My publishers send out manuscripts to various other writers. Some respond, some don't. Kit (K. Kerr) did, and very kindly, so we used the quote.
There are times writers who are friends -don't- respond, and although you want to assume it's because they didn't have time, in your heart of hearts you wonder whether they just might have thought your book sucked and didn't want to say so in public...
"God bless your crooked little heart." - Tom Waits
- jasonius
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Cool, that's something i've always wondered about.
Whoops, sorry "KK!" ---------------------- "Or like a poet woo the moon, riding an armchair for my steed, and with a flashing pen, harpoon terrific metaphors of speed." -Roy Campbell
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Re: Friends in the Biz
Tad, I just want to say that not only are your books incredible, but just reading about your views on children and other stuff is always uplifting too. ... yep ...
smile at people
- Tad
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You can relax, Max, the Campaign of Vengeance is over.
"God bless your crooked little heart." - Tom Waits
- bumadax
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Well that wasn't exactly why...well okay if you say so...
smile at people
- Marian
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Re: Friends in the Biz
[goodbye embarrassing post]
[ August 04, 2001: Message edited by: Marian ]
- Marian
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[see above]
[ August 04, 2001: Message edited by: Marian ]
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