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#76 2007-02-08 14:43:00

Em
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Re: to ramble about our stories some more......

ceywren wrote:

i'm so totally lazy when it comes to that stuff. i usually don't know jack all about my characters till i start shoving them in random awkward places and seeing what they'll do. usually i don't even know their names when i do it, either.

also, em: i'm soon going to make even more confusing that question you have about whether or not scout is gay. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Well, you better start mapping things out better or you end up with mountains just popping up in the oddest places. *grins*

Hah! I'll look forward to it, Ceywren.


"Ho, Ho," says the Keeper of the Beat. 1Q84, Haruki Murakami.

 

#77 2007-02-08 21:02:00

Genisis X
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Re: to ramble about our stories some more......

Em wrote:



Well, you better start mapping things out better or you end up with mountains just popping up in the oddest places. *grins*

Hah! I'll look forward to it, Ceywren.

Ten points for the sexual innuendo.

-X


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#78 2007-02-09 09:04:00

Libra-in-a-roundabout-way
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Re: to ramble about our stories some more......

I'm with Ceywren here....Gosh I'm now trying to work out my characters and the set-up for the story, but I really don't know how to do this. Usually I just find a nice sentence to begin with and the story grows from that...but now I'm actually working on writing this one story....it's giving me a very hard time. I know some of the things that have to happen, but it's the writing in between that gives me the biggest headache!!!!


"If you say that getting the money is the most important thing, you will spend you life completely wasting your time. You'll be doing things you don't like doing in order to go on living, that is, to go on doing things you don't like doing... which is stupid."
~ Alan Watts

 

#79 2007-02-09 13:34:00

ceywren
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Re: to ramble about our stories some more......

Genisis X wrote:



Ten points for the sexual innuendo.

-X

*grin*

actually she was being literal ;)

i recently redid the map and i accidentally stuck a mountain range through the middle of the story. oops.


"It's not that it's such a mystery
This new-found malaise.
It's just that this mystery
Has taken your place."

-Gordon Downie, Mystery-

 

#80 2007-02-09 13:46:00

Jendaiya
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Re: to ramble about our stories some more......

My map will have to be done up soon. I'm going post-apocalyptic with this set of stories (I've actually a working title for them, odd for me), so I've got to be looking at some changes.

And:

WOOOOOHOOOOO!

I just set the goal and motivation for the guys who are against my protagonists. Now I basically have the whole story. I just need the little plot points that get 'em all where they're going--which is likely dead, knowing me. Oh. Did I just spoiler it for ya?


Beauty will save the world.

~Prince Myshkin,

The Idiot, by Dostoevsky

 

#81 2007-02-09 16:07:00

Jendaiya
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Re: to ramble about our stories some more......

Okay, some research done, some books ordered from the library.

Now, on to the plot.

Can I do this? Without making it too big, while aiming for intereting, and hoping that it really, really not stupid?

I dunno.

I've never written in this genre. I *think* it could be called fantasy. It's not sci-fi. Urban fantasy? Not speculative...  Why do I never know the sub-genres I write in?


Beauty will save the world.

~Prince Myshkin,

The Idiot, by Dostoevsky

 

#82 2007-02-11 11:57:00

ceywren
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Re: to ramble about our stories some more......

yay motivationness! if it makes you feel better, jen, i dun know anything about all the subgenres and stuff either. hell, i don't even know anything about grammar. sentence structure? adjective? huh? all i remember from school about all that is getting upset when my teacher told me never to start a sentence with "and". pah!

i just did a timeline for the last three days of my story. it was getting hideously confusing because there was so much happening. it took me about twenty-five chapters for three days. but once i finished that, i actually looked back at the last chapter i just finished writing and realised i had done something really stupid. for some reason i have a seagoing people trekking through a forest in the middle of winter instead  of taking a ship fifteen miles down the coast. wha? so have to rewrite that one. oh well.


"It's not that it's such a mystery
This new-found malaise.
It's just that this mystery
Has taken your place."

-Gordon Downie, Mystery-

 

#83 2007-02-11 17:38:00

Genisis X
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Re: to ramble about our stories some more......

heh. I did my map first. Then it wasn't big enough, so i added more. Watch it grow! Yaaay!

-X


Cyan on the merits of Dubstep: "That's not music. That's a patchwork quilt made by a blind iron worker."

My new webcomic of sarcasm and profanity!

 

#84 2007-02-11 20:26:00

ceywren
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Re: to ramble about our stories some more......

i did my map first too, but i ended up changing it a little. it hasn't changed too much. the coastline has shifted a bit in a few places and mountains and seas have popped up, but the basic geography hasn't altered too drastically.


"It's not that it's such a mystery
This new-found malaise.
It's just that this mystery
Has taken your place."

-Gordon Downie, Mystery-

 

#85 2007-02-12 15:48:00

Jendaiya
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Re: to ramble about our stories some more......

I'm pretty much using earth in this story, so I don't need to map too much. I mean things are different, but not much.

I'm about to write a 'something's kinda hinky here' scene. Oh, yay for beginnings.


Beauty will save the world.

~Prince Myshkin,

The Idiot, by Dostoevsky

 

#86 2007-02-13 11:44:00

ceywren
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Re: to ramble about our stories some more......

bah! i think i need to ditch the chapter i just wrote. which sucks because that was the chapter i did some background for one of my main characters and i'm not sure how else i'll go about it.

though maybe i just won't do any background on the character and instead i'll write a whole book on him when i'm finished this one. yeah...maybe i'll do that. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!


"It's not that it's such a mystery
This new-found malaise.
It's just that this mystery
Has taken your place."

-Gordon Downie, Mystery-

 

#87 2007-02-13 11:49:00

Em
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Posts: 42304

Re: to ramble about our stories some more......

ceywren wrote:

though maybe i just won't do any background on the character and instead i'll write a whole book on him when i'm finished this one. yeah...maybe i'll do that. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Which character? *afraid to hear the answer*


"Ho, Ho," says the Keeper of the Beat. 1Q84, Haruki Murakami.

 

#88 2007-02-13 11:51:00

ceywren
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Re: to ramble about our stories some more......

begins with "s" ends with "t" and there's a "cou" somewhere in the middle.


"It's not that it's such a mystery
This new-found malaise.
It's just that this mystery
Has taken your place."

-Gordon Downie, Mystery-

 

#89 2007-02-13 11:53:00

ceywren
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Re: to ramble about our stories some more......

and to be fair, i always wanted to do a book for him. silverbound is already ruining the ending for that, so at least let me keep the story itself a surprise ;)


"It's not that it's such a mystery
This new-found malaise.
It's just that this mystery
Has taken your place."

-Gordon Downie, Mystery-

 

#90 2007-02-13 12:02:00

Em
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Posts: 42304

Re: to ramble about our stories some more......

ceywren wrote:

begins with "s" ends with "t" and there's a "cou" somewhere in the middle.

Let me guess - um - *scratches head*


"Ho, Ho," says the Keeper of the Beat. 1Q84, Haruki Murakami.

 

#91 2007-02-13 12:03:00

ceywren
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Re: to ramble about our stories some more......

contrary to popular belief, i do not have a character named "scratches head".


"It's not that it's such a mystery
This new-found malaise.
It's just that this mystery
Has taken your place."

-Gordon Downie, Mystery-

 

#92 2007-02-13 12:04:00

Em
Mantis
From: somewhere left of reality
Registered: 2004-12-28
Posts: 42304

Re: to ramble about our stories some more......

ceywren wrote:

contrary to popular belief, i do not have a character named "scratches head".

ROFL!!!!!

You should, you know.


"Ho, Ho," says the Keeper of the Beat. 1Q84, Haruki Murakami.

 

#93 2007-02-13 12:06:00

ceywren
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Re: to ramble about our stories some more......

i'll be sure to put it on my list. oops! look at that! i accidentally set it on fire! ;)


"It's not that it's such a mystery
This new-found malaise.
It's just that this mystery
Has taken your place."

-Gordon Downie, Mystery-

 

#94 2007-02-13 12:10:00

ceywren
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Re: to ramble about our stories some more......

*imagines what Scratches-Heads brother would be named*

err...maybe not.


"It's not that it's such a mystery
This new-found malaise.
It's just that this mystery
Has taken your place."

-Gordon Downie, Mystery-

 

#95 2007-02-13 12:56:00

Magpie
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Re: to ramble about our stories some more......

I don't remember when I did my map. Pretty early on, I think. And it's largely stayed the same. But I keep making it more and more complicated - adding mountains, and twisting rivers a bit more and more, trying to find out how the borders would change over the centuries...

Didn't sleep well the last two nights, so I spent a long time thinking about a dream I had about a year ago and that's always begged to me made into a story. I don't need yet another story, for Nalan'nesashyla'y's sake!
(Wow... I'm starting to use Kivailo expressions again. Don't know if that's good or bad...)
(and another wow... I still know how to spell that! And I even can pronounce it!)


I think we've just proven that our greatest power is silliness!
- cyan

babbling about books and plants
my crazy customers

 

#96 2007-02-13 15:45:00

ceywren
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Re: to ramble about our stories some more......

*doesn't even try to pronounce it* ;)

my map is one i used for a old story that never made it. i didn't consciously think to use it for silverbound, but it was convenient so i just started walking them through it.


"It's not that it's such a mystery
This new-found malaise.
It's just that this mystery
Has taken your place."

-Gordon Downie, Mystery-

 

#97 2007-02-13 19:37:00

Genisis X
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Re: to ramble about our stories some more......

*hurts self trying to pronounce it*

-X


Cyan on the merits of Dubstep: "That's not music. That's a patchwork quilt made by a blind iron worker."

My new webcomic of sarcasm and profanity!

 

#98 2007-02-13 20:00:00

Em
Mantis
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Registered: 2004-12-28
Posts: 42304

Re: to ramble about our stories some more......

Genisis X wrote:

*hurts self trying to pronounce it*

Say "it" with me i-tah (putting your tongue against your front teeth to produce the "tip alveolar consonant" or "flap") .


"Ho, Ho," says the Keeper of the Beat. 1Q84, Haruki Murakami.

 

#99 2007-02-13 20:14:00

Genisis X
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From: Canberra
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Re: to ramble about our stories some more......

Em wrote:



Say "it" with me i-tah (putting your tongue against your front teeth to produce the "tip alveolar consonant" or "flap") .

o-O

*giggles*

Your great, Em. You really are!

-X


Cyan on the merits of Dubstep: "That's not music. That's a patchwork quilt made by a blind iron worker."

My new webcomic of sarcasm and profanity!

 

#100 2007-02-13 20:33:00

Em
Mantis
From: somewhere left of reality
Registered: 2004-12-28
Posts: 42304

Re: to ramble about our stories some more......

Genisis X wrote:

Your great, Em. You really are!

*struts*


"Ho, Ho," says the Keeper of the Beat. 1Q84, Haruki Murakami.

 

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