- Peter
- Pilgrim
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Re: Chaven's tower
Btw, try out 3DMark2001 first. It's a much smaller download and you'll spend much less time with it. And you could use that time to download the other Demo ;)
I'd suggest getting the newest ATI drivers as well. Which is always a good idea :)
I'd be interested in the exact stats of our graphics card as well, but the 3DMark scores should give me a good idea anyway.
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Re: Chaven's tower
Yep - I'd buy a 2400 or 2600 if I did it again. Twas a case of "ooh lets spend money" back in July.
The motherboard is fine, but you might want to consider how much you really need all the ports and connections. Then buy the A7N8X instead.
(For example, integrated RAID - lovely feature, no doubt, but I've currently no need for all the storage space; dual lan ports - buy a router :) ).
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- Peter
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Re: Chaven's tower
There's one reason to buy the Deluxe Model: If you want to use the onboard sound for gaming. The normal model only contains a normal AC97 codec but not the nVidia APU.
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- Sahi
- Mantis
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Re: Chaven's tower
I had some trouble finding a site that would actually let my Mozilla download that benchmark.
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- Sahi
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Re: Chaven's tower
Hmph, couldn't even find a way to copy it. Oh well, here she is:
1024x768x32 3DMark Score -> 8565 Game1 - Car Chase - Low Detail -> 102.8 fps Game1 - Car Chase - High Detail -> 52.1 fps Game2 - Dragothic - Low Detail -> 132.0 fps Game2 - Dragothic - High Detail -> 78.6 fps Game3 - Lobby - Low Detail -> 135.5 fps Game3 - Lobby - High Detail -> 70.0 fps Game 4 - Nature -> 42.5 fps Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) -> 639.2 MTexels/s Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) -> 1266.5 MTexels/s High Polygon count (1 Light) -> 35.6 MTriangles/s High Polygon count (8 Lights) -> 8.2 MTriangles/s Environment Bump Mapping -> 151.1 fps DOT3 Bump Mapping -> 89.8 fps Vertex Shader -> 107.1 fps Pixel Shader -> 136.5 fps Advanced Pixel Shader -> 83.6 fps
Not that any of this means anything to me, but the pictures sure looked nice. :)
yalahii.
640x480x32 3DMark Score -> 11861 Game1 - Car Chase - Low Detail -> 137.8 fps Game1 - Car Chase - High Detail -> 62.6 fps Game2 - Dragothic - Low Detail -> 219.9.0 fps Game2 - Dragothic - High Detail -> 110.1 fps Game3 - Lobby - Low Detail -> 171.9 fps Game3 - Lobby - High Detail -> 76.3 fps Game 4 - Nature -> 79.2 fps
1600x1200x32 3DMark Score -> 4352 Game1 - Car Chase - Low Detail -> 55.7 fps Game1 - Car Chase - High Detail -> 33.7 fps Game2 - Dragothic - Low Detail -> 59.3 fps Game2 - Dragothic - High Detail -> 42.5 fps Game3 - Lobby - Low Detail -> 58.0 fps Game3 - Lobby - High Detail -> 36.4 fps Game 4 - Nature -> 18.5 fps
[ January 23, 2004: Message edited by: Sahi ]
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- Sahi
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Re: Chaven's tower
So is this good, Peter?
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Re: Chaven's tower
Don't you have to specify a resolution?
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- Sahi
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Re: Chaven's tower
1024 x 768, but it detected that by itself.
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Re: Chaven's tower
Ok, so those are the default Benchmark values, and they do indicate that they used the cheapest (and slowest) version of the 9600 they could get their hands on.
As I mentioned before, it would be helpful to try: a) running it at 640x480x32, making the benchmark mostly CPU bound and b) running it at 1600x1200x32, which makes it mostly graphics card bound.
At 1024 it's a pretty good blend between graphics and CPU bound for most computers.
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- Sahi
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Re: Chaven's tower
Ah, oke. I'm using 1024x768, so I thought that would be the proper setting to test it on. Silly me. :)
I'll try again tonight.
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Re: Chaven's tower
Well, if you test at just one resolution, yes, that's the right one to use :)
The benchmark always defaults to that resolution, no matter what you've set for your desktop. All "official" results must be obtained with those settings...
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Re: Chaven's tower
Ah, so it was a 'coincidence' that the settings were correct. :)
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Re: Chaven's tower
Ok, going to post my scores here...
1024x768x32, no AA, no AF (default settings)
I'll post results for 640 and 1600 a bit later. No need to report anything beyond the 4 game benchmarks though, you can even tell 3DMark to skip the tests, to save a bit of time.
The other tests stress the graphics card only, and thus don't tell anything new when changing the resolution.
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Re: Chaven's tower
So all I need to test are the 4 games? I'll do that tonight, then.
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Re: Chaven's tower
640x480x32, no AA, no AF
1600x1200x32, no AA, no AF
It is clearly visible, that the High Detail tests are mostly CPU bound (Lobby is a bit different due to the reflecting floor), whereas Nature and the Low Detail tests stress the graphics card.
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Re: Chaven's tower
Yep :)
They're the only ones that affect the total score. The other tests are interesting as well, but the 1024 results are sufficient...
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- Sahi
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Re: Chaven's tower
I've edited my original post to add the new scores.
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Re: Chaven's tower
Ouch... your CPU is holding up well enough (though I suspect the memory timings aren't set correctly), but the graphics card tests aren't all that good.
Looks like this is a 9600 SE or a 9600 with very slow memory timings. The ATI control panel might tell you the exact model, as well as the memory and chip clock... (you might also want to download the newst drivers from ATI's site, they've fixed tons of problems in the last few months).
Of course you don't really need to know those things, but I am curious :)
The card should still hold up quite well in future games, probably better than mine (which was good for it's time, but is a generation behind yours technology wise).
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- Pilgrim
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Re: Chaven's tower
wow. this is technobable way beyond me.
cool. :)
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- Pilgrim
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Re: Chaven's tower
I'm still waiting for Mrs Baker card to make my family happy! I'm not too sure about her refresh rate.
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Re: Chaven's tower
??? I didn't say anything complicated yet, did I? ;))
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Re: Chaven's tower
yes. you said, "computer."
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Re: Chaven's tower
You'd better be glad I didn't start talking about programming topics, or went into any detail on 3D graphics... ;)
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- Sahi
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Re: Chaven's tower
Peter that spellforce game has got me hooked. I've just finished the tutorial and killed every monster there was.
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- Pilgrim
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Re: Chaven's tower
How many missions are there in Demo? Or aren't you done yet?
Anyway, I'm sorry! ;) Don't know if the english version is even available yet... (german developer studio)
In any case, does it run well on your new computer? I think it should, but you'll probably get the best results when you turn the resolution down to 800x600x32 (I know I have to...).
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