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#501 2017-06-18 06:38:02

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Re: Chaven's tower

Hope it works out and that your normal windows installation didn't take damage.


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#502 2017-06-18 07:03:47

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Re: Chaven's tower

That would be ideal :) thanks


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#503 2017-06-21 07:35:14

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Re: Chaven's tower

Got the replacement gfx card and everything works as it did before. Whew! Fingers crossed I survive half a year or so now.
Thanks for all your input and suggestions Peter!


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#504 2017-06-21 07:56:50

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Glad it was "only" the video card!
I'll keep my fingers crossed that it keeps running, but I see no reason why it shouldn't. I have much older systems that are still alive and kicking.


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#505 2017-11-23 12:21:29

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Re: Chaven's tower

Now it's time for a new PC, so I've made my custom order (and am getting it built by the pros at the store):

Essentials:
Intel Core i7-8700K
ASUS ROG MAXIMUS X HERO - ATX / Z370
ASUS ROG STRIX GeForce GTX 1070 8GB GAMING
Corsair Vengeance Black LPX 32GB (2x16GB) / 3000Hz / DDR4
Samsung SSD 960 PRO 512GB

in a Fractal Design Define R5 - Black Pearl

Hopefully this is going to last me another 5 years or so.
If I remember correctly, my first PC (which as an AMD K6-2) had 32MB ram. Now it's 1000x that, barely 20 years later.


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#506 2017-11-23 12:40:12

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Re: Chaven's tower

I am sure it will serve you well and may well last you more than 5 years. I would have changed a few small things, but only to save a bit of money.


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#507 2017-11-23 18:25:21

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Re: Chaven's tower

Kenan wrote:

Now it's time for a new PC, so I've made my custom order (and am getting it built by the pros at the store):

Essentials:
Intel Core i7-8700K
ASUS ROG MAXIMUS X HERO - ATX / Z370
ASUS ROG STRIX GeForce GTX 1070 8GB GAMING
Corsair Vengeance Black LPX 32GB (2x16GB) / 3000Hz / DDR4
Samsung SSD 960 PRO 512GB

in a Fractal Design Define R5 - Black Pearl

Hopefully this is going to last me another 5 years or so.
If I remember correctly, my first PC (which as an AMD K6-2) had 32MB ram. Now it's 1000x that, barely 20 years later.

Congrats on the new computer, Kenan!

Yeah, it's crazy how quickly computer technology changes. Circa 2000, I had a Compaq Presario 2256, also with an AMD K6. This was a replacement for my first computer that I ever used online, which only lasted a few years (Autumn 1997 to 2000, and then again from 2002 to 2004 after the Compaq went kaput). Not sure what the brand or model was. Then I had a home-built desktop. Then I acquired a refurbished Dell Dimension 3000. This was followed by my first laptop: a Compaq Presario M2000. That lasted until 2012-ish. Then I got my current laptop, a Toshiba Satellite C55, in 2013. 4 GB of RAM, and it's already very outdated.


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#508 2017-11-24 02:54:26

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Re: Chaven's tower

Peter, yeah I know I kind of went all out on this one, and I'm paying for it... literally. I've had my current PC almost 6 years, but we'll see how long this will last. If it's 5 year I suppose I'll be happy!

Firs, I don't remember that much at all about my PCs, though my father probably remembers more about what I've had through the years. I think I had something with 500 and then 800MHz. And then it's all blank.
4GB of RAM wouldn't even get me started today... My 8GB doesn't suffice either. So I thought of just buying more RAM, but it's past time for an upgrade, and I want new dammit! :)


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#509 2017-11-24 05:59:08

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Re: Chaven's tower

I remember the company Emachines used to put stickers on their towers, claiming that they were "never obsolete". Ha!


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#510 2017-11-24 08:29:16

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Re: Chaven's tower

Kenan wrote:

Firs, I don't remember that much at all about my PCs, though my father probably remembers more about what I've had through the years. I think I had something with 500 and then 800MHz. And then it's all blank.
4GB of RAM wouldn't even get me started today... My 8GB doesn't suffice either. So I thought of just buying more RAM, but it's past time for an upgrade, and I want new dammit! :)

Oh, I only know the make and model of some of my old computers because several of them are still stored in my closet! And I was able to look up another one online.

Enjoy the new compy!


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#511 2017-11-24 08:39:58

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Ad1tu wrote:

I remember the company Emachines used to put stickers on their towers, claiming that they were "never obsolete". Ha!

Bwahahaha!

Great eMachines background video here.


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#512 2017-11-24 14:08:21

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Re: Chaven's tower

Not counting tablets and smartphones, I have only owned two preassembled computers and have yet to buy a laptop for myself.

The first computer I used was a PC-XT clone (4.77MHz 8088, 640KB RAM, 20MB HDD), when I was about 6 years old. My mother bought that to do bookkeeping for a small company despite staying home with the kids. I also played some games on a friend's Atari 2600.

The first computer I had for myself was a Commodore C64 (1MHz MOS6510, 64KB RAM, ~160KB 5 1/4" FDD). I must have been about 10 or 11 when I got that and I used it with a small TV instead of a proper monitor.

My second computer and the first I bought for myself was an AMD 386 DX40 (40MHz, 8MB RAM, 105MB HDD).

After that, everything was self built and as a result, components get rather hazy. I did not always upgrade HDDs or video cards at the same time as CPUs and I don't remember all the configurations. Around the time of the Athlon XPs and Athlon 64 I actively used 2 different computers for a bit and I am not entirely sure how many different Athlon XPs I owned.

AMD 486-DX4 100 (100MHz, 16MB RAM)
Cyrix 6x86 P166+ (133MHz, 32 or 64MB RAM)
AMD K6-200 (200MHz, 64MB RAM)
AMD K6-2 300 (300MHz mb 333MHz OC, 64MB RAM)
Intel Celeron 400 (500MHz OC, 128MB? RAM)
AMD Athlon 1GHz (1GHz, 1GB RAM)
AMD Athlon XP 1800+ (~1.5 GHz, 1GB? RAM)
AMD Athlon XP 2600+ (~2.1GHz, 2GB? RAM)
AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (1.8GHz, 2GB RAM)
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 (2.4GHz, OC ~2.7GHz, 2GB RAM, later 4GB)
Intel Core i5-2500K (3.3-3.5GHz, OC 4.0GHz, 8GB RAM)
Intel Core i7-6700K (4.0-4.2GHz, 16GB RAM)

In hindsight, only a few of those (including the last three, though the 6700K is discussion-worthy) were good choices. The list should be at least 1/3 shorter, buying fewer but more expensive hardware (only the Athlon 1GHz and the three most recent PCs are fairly high performance).

3D video cards:

3Dfx Voodoo 2 8MB
Nvidia GeForce 256 SDR 32MB
Nvidia GeForce 2 32MB (terrible idea)
Nvidia GeForce 4 Ti 4200 128MB?
ATI Radeon 9600 128MB (second computer)
Nvidia GeForce 6 6800GT 256MB?
Nvidia GeForce 8800GTX 768MB (premature death)
AMD Radeon 4850 1GB
Nvidia GeForce GTX 670 2GB
Nvidia GeForce GTX 970 3.5GB

The GeForce 2 was a terrible idea (far too small of an upgrade) and the GeForce 4 came shortly before the incredible Radeon 9700, but I couldn't know that. The 8800GTX should have lasted me forever, but it died pretty soon. The 970 is kind of a small step over the 670, but a couple games I really wanted to play (mostly Witcher 3) ran out of steam on the 670.


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#513 2017-11-25 01:28:08

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Re: Chaven's tower

Firsfron of Ronchester wrote:

Ad1tu wrote:

I remember the company Emachines used to put stickers on their towers, claiming that they were "never obsolete". Ha!

Bwahahaha!

Great eMachines background video here.

*guffaws* "the ultimate example of ubiquity paired with mediocrity"


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#514 2017-11-25 01:29:04

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Re: Chaven's tower

That's an impressively long list, Peter!
I did have a C64 as well, but others were gaming on Amigas by then...


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#515 2017-11-25 03:35:16

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Re: Chaven's tower

Peter wrote:

The first computer I used was a PC-XT clone (4.77MHz 8088, 640KB RAM, 20MB HDD), when I was about 6 years old.

I had an IBM PCjr: my first home computer. But I owned it nine years after it was made.


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#516 2017-11-25 04:00:05

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Re: Chaven's tower

Kenan wrote:

Firsfron of Ronchester wrote:

Ad1tu wrote:

I remember the company Emachines used to put stickers on their towers, claiming that they were "never obsolete". Ha!

Bwahahaha!

Great eMachines background video here.

*guffaws* "the ultimate example of ubiquity paired with mediocrity"

That's a great channel.

I ended up watching a bunch of videos on that channel, since they had a whole series of "whatever happened to...?"-type videos: MadCatz, AOL, McAfee, etc. A very addictive series!


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#517 2017-12-07 05:14:14

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Re: Chaven's tower

Availability of the processor is really low, so I'm still waiting to have it built, and delivered...


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#518 2017-12-07 05:41:11

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Yeah, Intel released the new generation much earlier than planned, as an answer to Ryzen. To do that, they cut out the time they'd usually use to stockpile chips. So they can't meet initial demand.

Can you still change something in your order? Unless you do intend to overclock, the 8700 is every bit as good as the 8700K. I'd probably go with an 960 Evo over the Pro as well, you need extremely heavy workloads to see a difference.

The mainboard seems very expensive as well unless you need specific features not available in more mainstream models.


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#519 2017-12-07 06:04:10

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Re: Chaven's tower

Peter, oh I'll wait for the 8700k, the rest is in and ready to be assembled. :) And the 8700 doesn't seem to be available either.


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#520 2017-12-07 06:16:47

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Re: Chaven's tower

I should look into tablet specs to see what I want to replace my old Nexus 10 with. It has recently made me aware that it really needs to be replaced: it doesn't even want to charge the battery anymore when I am using it. It will only charge when it's inactive.


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#521 2017-12-07 06:23:09

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What do you want / need, Sahi?

The easiest to recommend tablet right now is the iPad. The iPad Pro is a little nicer and faster, but unless you are as picky as I am, the regular iPad is plenty. The display is more reflective, there is less memory and a slightly older / slower CPU, but it's still very fast and excellent value. If you do use the camera, that's better on the Pro too.

If you want a fast, high quality Android tablet, your options are very limited. If you want to do some productivity, there are also Windows tablets. They tend to have poor battery life and most of them are on the large / heavy side, but they run a full windows and some are quite powerful.


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#522 2017-12-07 06:32:14

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Nah, all I do on my tablet are games and some browsing. It would be nice if I could connect a fitness bracelet to it, so it would probably need the latest version of bluetooth. Oh, and I sometimes use it in places where the wifi is crappy, so a good receiver would be nice.


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#523 2017-12-07 06:41:37

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That rules out the Google tablet. The Pixel C is still one of the more competent Android tablets, but the WiFi is known to be poor.


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#524 2017-12-07 06:44:59

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But it'll have to be Android, as all my games are linked to my Google account.


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#525 2017-12-07 06:50:17

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I'll have a look later :)


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