- Miiru
- Pilgrim
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Re: The Church of Erotic Pantheism: Back in the Business of Pleasure
~wholeheartedly agrees~
Beauty, sensuality, et al, are most emphatically -not- about waifish, starving supermodels.
Most beautiful people I know are right here, dammit, and you're one of 'em. So :P!
And if it's a one-time thing... 's his loss. :) Y'r fabulous, babe. Make sure he knows it ;)
Ted Kennedy in a speedo is just another sign of the coming apocalypse. -wiked
- Jaime
- Pilgrim
- From: Wilmington, NC
- Registered: 2001-06-01
- Posts: 11441
Re: The Church of Erotic Pantheism: Back in the Business of Pleasure
*agrees wholeheartedly too*
When I was in high school, I knew a couple of very large women that guys loved simply because they didn't let their physical image affect their personalities - they had no trouble with bfs, or even just getting laid.
Yeah, there were the occasional buttwipes who had to be rude about it, but for the most part they didn't let it get to them; they had friends - and lovers - who loved them no matter what they looked like, and that was the important part.
*sneaks back to work til she can escape for lunch*
Yield to temptation; it may not pass your way again.
-- Heinlein
- dragondawn
- Pilgrim
- From: mi vida loca
- Registered: 2001-06-04
- Posts: 13543
Re: The Church of Erotic Pantheism: Back in the Business of Pleasure
had convo with cute plumber...it may not be a one-time thing, but it won't be as regular as i'd like it. *snickers* and he told me he enjoyed himself muchly, and i returned the compliment. heh...as for my size/looks..i know, i know! *reads sig* *reads it again* however, a lifetime of feeling marginal does not go away in less than 2 years. *nods*
at least me and the cute plumber got to have a good conversation, and i think he'll be back a few more times. *wink* plus, he said my...adventuresomeness wasn't a turn-off or an intimidating thing, as i'd feared. in fact, we had to change the subject *blush* cuz he has to get up early tomorrow. or he may have wound up in my living room..he said it was a turn-on for him to ponder. *cheesy grin*
*is happy dragon despite her hideous ex-jarhead boss*
My religion is to live and die without regret. ~ Milarepa
- Auros
- Pilgrim
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Re: The Church of Erotic Pantheism: Back in the Business of Pleasure
So, I already sent this to a few people in email. And I figure, what the hey, this is my Neighborhood topic, and I'll make what I want of it.
The Church of Erotic Pantheism is endorsing a candidate in the Democratic presidential primary: Howard Dean.
This is where I was last night. It was a blast.
After considering for a while between Dean and Kerry, I've decided that, while Kerry will be an acceptable candidate if he wins -- and I particularly like the fact that he'll be able to thump Bush on the military service issue -- I just believe in Dean's policies and principles more. So I've started volunteering for his campaign, along with several other members of the Bab5 social group.
Last night, about a hundred Dean supporters packed a popular Berkeley cafe (and I do mean packed -- when we sat down for letter writing, some of us had to go outside, because there weren't enough tables) to hear an update on fundraising (Dean collected 7.5 M$ for the quarter, from nearly sixty thousand individual supporters, which puts the average contribution around $125, hardly a "fat-kat" sort of number; about half the money came in during the last week and a half, through a surge of internet donations following the MoveOn primary), discuss local CA issues (such as the budget deadlock and recall effort), and write letters to Iowa voters. Names had been collected from a list of people who participated in an Iowa Democratic Party poll concerning the upcoming caucuses (indicating they're not totally uninterested in politics) and marked themselves as undecided. Instead of sending form letters, like most campaigns, the Dean campaign asked its supporters to write individual letters, by hand.
I wrote to three residents of Boone, IA. I told them about my indirect experiences, through my physician father and diabetes-suffering brother, with the flaws in the health care system; about my belief in the need to improve transit systems and invest in alternative energy, as a way to both create jobs and wean the nation off fossil fuels (both items that are specifically mentioned in Dean's economic agenda); and about how Dean is the only candidate who seems to be making a serious effort to bring political campaigning back to its pre-television roots, with individual people participating, talking to campaign staffers and to each other, and helping to shape the policies of the candidate.
I've written here before about how I'm optimistic that the demographics and the no-Nader factor give us a shot, especially when you look at Florida... Media buzz about Bush's invincibility notwithstanding, I think the Republicans are in serious trouble. We have a chance to install a new president with a real majority mandate, who will represent inclusive, progressive values.
I'm happy to answer any questions on this candidate, and if I don't have a ready answer, I can consult with the Bay Area For Dean staffers. So far, two major questions have already been directed my way by some of the friends I originally wrote this rant^H^H^H^H note for. Here are lightly-edited quotes of what I wrote to the people who asked:
Position on drugs...
As I understand it, there are two things worth knowing on the subject:
He's a recent (within the last year) convert to the "treatment instead of incarceration position" for illegal use of drugs (this is an example of where town-hall and round-table type discussions with his supporters has changed his position -- he didn't look at a poll on this, he just was convinced that the principle of the thing, and the evidence of results that people could show from CA and elsewhere, justified the position).
He has supported legalizing medical use of marijuana for quite a while.
Despite the fact that I know a few recovered addicts who can testify to the horrors of addiction, I am all in favor of legalization for almost everything. (PCP and some others induce violent behavior, and thus pose a risk in and of themselves; so I wouldn't legalize those.) Once it's legal, you can just license the distributors and purchasers, tax it to gets funds for treatment programs (though not so heavily that a black market becomes profitable again), and keep track of what's going on to prevent illegal sales. You can make sure that people are being given literature on how to tell when they're becoming heavily addicted, make sure that it's easy for family and friends to know that this person might be addicted (and thus encourage them to seek treatment), and make it easy to seek treatment without risking legal consequences. By making it legal, you also remove a major profit center for organized crime, thus striking a blow against their other enterprises (mainly "white slavery", and weapons trafficking within developed-world slums and across borders into drug-producing regions of third-world countries).
I see this as rather parallel to reproductive health issues: we want all forms of contraception (and abortion) kept safe and legal precisely because we can then minimize the harm from unwanted pregnancies; some will happen regardless, but they can be terminated early, with minimal medical risks to the woman. Far better than the situation in places where contraception is illegal or taboo. (It has been quite conclusively established that in regions of the US where "abstinence-only" sex-ed has taken hold, the rate of teen pregnancy and STD infection is higher. It's also suspected, though not adequately established, that the rate at which teens are having sex may be higher in those areas -- if true, presumably it's because those that are given real knowledge feel more in control over their sexuality, so they're OK with abstaining as a choice.)
In any case... Harm reduction is good. Outright bans are bad. At least, that's my take on it.
Of course, Dean's still much more conservative on the issue than I would prefer. The War on Drugs Not Patented By US Corporations is a complete abject failure. It should end, as soon as possible.
The other question that came up was about the shrillness of some of his early comments about the Bush administration, and how that might compare to Kucinich (who is all about the peace and love) or Kerry (who is slightly less liberal, and more a political creature in terms of compromising principles to get along with folks like the Bushies).
I think Kucinich is too far left. He's left of me on trade issues, for one thing (to the point that he often sounds like he's pandering to the unions; he and Gephardt seem to be competing in that department), and I think his rhetoric about a "department of peace" comes off as flaky, much like Jerry Brown did last time her ran for Pres. Not to mention that the idea of a department of peace just makes me think of 1984...
I also don't totally trust his position on issues relating to religion (e.g. abortion, sex ed). He's a Catholic, and up until quite recently (basically when he started entertaining presidential ambitions) had always voted as you would expect a good Catholic to vote. (Not that I'm saying there's something wrong with being Catholic -- I just disagree with the policies the religion has been endorsing for the last few centuries, so if somebody is a faithful supporter, I have to question whether they'll support the policies I prefer. Dean, in contrast, worked hard to support his state's gay civil unions law, and is generally socially progressive.)
Dean clearly would've voted against the war if he had been in Congress, but he's a governor. He was making strong statements questioning the administrations honesty about the WMD intelligence before that had become a fashionable thing to do. (Though I still do appreciate Kerry's comparing those lies to the ones that backed the Gulf of Tonkin resolution.)
The overall tone of Dean's campaign has been, I think, rather like John McCain's in '00. He's made a lot of noise early on, mostly because he needed to get media attention; he was regarded as a dark horse candidate, and media opinion could've been self-fulfilling. As he has pulled up to the front-runners (the latest polls in Iowa have him even with Kerry and Gephardt), he's toned down the criticism a lot, and put more emphasis on the grass-roots nature of his campaign, community building, and his actual policy proposals.
Many of his policies have been piloted in Vermont. While I think he could stand to give more acknowledgement that VT is a relatively wealthy state, and applying his ideas nationwide will probably mean that the rich states will be somewhat subsidizing the poor ones, that doesn't really mean much: it's actually the situation we're in. California loses several hundred dollars per person per year, when you tally up federal taxes versus federal benefits; Alabama and Mississipi gain similar amounts. The thing is, currently most of that money goes to pork-barrel projects for the districts of prominent Congressmen. If it were instead going to fund health-care, education, new energy and transit infrastructure, and so on, I wouldn't have a problem with it.
As I've said, I think Kerry would be a good candidate too. But he does suffer from some credibility issues, sort of a truer version of the media spin about Gore being a serial exaggerator (which was largely based on misquotes and outright lies, but never mind that)... See here and here (scroll to Mon Feb 10).
In any case, while I agree that a shrill campaign would backfire in the general election, and I don't think Dean would run a campaign like that... It's not like any of the criticisms of Bush are false. The man was never elected, probably was a drug user, went AWOL when he was supposed to be serving in the Air Nat'l Guard, got into the Guard by having his daddy pull some strings for him, was a failure in every business he touched yet consistently profited by cheating his investors... And heck, he lies to the public even when the truth would sound better. He's a smarmy little creep who ought to be in jail, not the White House.
</rant> For now, at least.
[ July 03, 2003: Message edited by: Auros ]
Irreverent Father Auros, High Priest of the Church of Erotic Pantheismthe Aurosphere -- Me, myself, and I. Strange Horizons -- Your weekly source for speculative fiction.
- Auros
- Pilgrim
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Re: The Church of Erotic Pantheism: Back in the Business of Pleasure
More on the usual topic... *snuggles the dragonlady* I'm glad you're having fun.
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- Jaime
- Pilgrim
- From: Wilmington, NC
- Registered: 2001-06-01
- Posts: 11441
Re: The Church of Erotic Pantheism: Back in the Business of Pleasure
*moseys off to do some of her own research on the guy and see what's up*
Yield to temptation; it may not pass your way again.
-- Heinlein
- dragondawn
- Pilgrim
- From: mi vida loca
- Registered: 2001-06-04
- Posts: 13543
Re: The Church of Erotic Pantheism: Back in the Business of Pleasure
*snuggles back* my pal dipika and i had a chat the other day...i said, i think i'm getting some good karma for a change. she agreed. *grin* please don't think for a second that i'm not very aware how lucky i've been. i've got to work hard and keep up what i've been doing right...and i think i'll be okay.
and have fun along the way; supposedly my neighbor julye and i are going to take the cute plumber with us when we go out on saturday nite(i'm not sure we're still going-depends on lots of stuff). *evil grin* we keep teasing him we're going to draw straws to see who gets him...well, she said that. i said or we could share him. *snicker* i don't know if she heard that or not..he did. i saw his eyes glance at me, and he kinda grinned. eh, we've all been friends now for a little over a year...we joke around all the time. *smile*
My religion is to live and die without regret. ~ Milarepa
- dragondawn
- Pilgrim
- From: mi vida loca
- Registered: 2001-06-04
- Posts: 13543
Re: The Church of Erotic Pantheism: Back in the Business of Pleasure
*blush* not to blow my own horn, but the dragon is much more attractive now. she got a haircut; i'd say the girl lopped about 3-4 inches off the bottom. it was just fried, full of breakage and split ends. she re-trimmed my bangs to grow more layers in eventually, and slightly layered the sides. she showed me how to dry it to make it have more volume...it doesn't look that drastically different, other than the length, but that kept it looking straggly. i was tired of straggly. add to that the kind of place i work now, and...dd's enjoying being more girly than she's ever been in her life. *blushes again* however, i try to wear stuff that's still 'me'. no more concert tshirts at work, tho. *sigh*
My religion is to live and die without regret. ~ Milarepa
- Jaime
- Pilgrim
- From: Wilmington, NC
- Registered: 2001-06-01
- Posts: 11441
Re: The Church of Erotic Pantheism: Back in the Business of Pleasure
It's amazing what a decent haircut will do for one's ego, even for a day or two.
I got mine trimmed a few weeks ago (before the show), but the guy half-assed the buzz underneath and used scissors instead of an electric razor, so I need to get it redone soon.
Yield to temptation; it may not pass your way again.
-- Heinlein
- FlutePicc
- Pilgrim
- From: Canada
- Registered: 2001-06-08
- Posts: 16570
Re: The Church of Erotic Pantheism: Back in the Business of Pleasure
I've been pondering doing something with my hair. Something interesting for a change. Like maybe a real style rather than just long, and maybe colour, although that's less likely.
I'll probably chicken out and just leave it though..
- Auros
- Pilgrim
- From: San Mateo, CA
- Registered: 2001-11-23
- Posts: 6438
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Re: The Church of Erotic Pantheism: Back in the Business of Pleasure
I just watched Bill Moyers' acceptance speech for the Campaign for the Future's Lifetime Achievment award. Two great quotes (from fairly close to each other, near the end of the speech):
The rich have the right to buy more cars than anyone else, more homes, vacations, gadgets and gizmos, but they do not have the right to buy more democracy.
...
Civilization happens because we don't leave things to other people. What's right and good doesn't come naturally. You have to stand up and fight for it as if the cause depends on you, because it does. Allow yourself the conceit to believe that the flame of democracy will never go out, as long as there is one candle in your hand.
You can get a transcript or see it on video, at the site I linked above.
[ July 05, 2003: Message edited by: Auros ]
Irreverent Father Auros, High Priest of the Church of Erotic Pantheismthe Aurosphere -- Me, myself, and I. Strange Horizons -- Your weekly source for speculative fiction.
- Auros
- Pilgrim
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Re: The Church of Erotic Pantheism: Back in the Business of Pleasure
I keep my hairstyle pretty simple; I have it cut so that if I comb it to its natural part, it all falls at more or less the same length...
Irreverent Father Auros, High Priest of the Church of Erotic Pantheismthe Aurosphere -- Me, myself, and I. Strange Horizons -- Your weekly source for speculative fiction.
- dragondawn
- Pilgrim
- From: mi vida loca
- Registered: 2001-06-04
- Posts: 13543
Re: The Church of Erotic Pantheism: Back in the Business of Pleasure
i don't have very thick hair, and what i do have is fine as well. *sigh* but i fear i may not have the kind of hair that is strong enough to be that long. i may grow it a little longer than what it is now, but i may not grow it to my waist again. *sigh* but it's a really nice color now, thanks to my red henna shampoo. it's just a bare tinge more auburn-y red now, and very shiny.
My religion is to live and die without regret. ~ Milarepa
- Auros
- Pilgrim
- From: San Mateo, CA
- Registered: 2001-11-23
- Posts: 6438
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Re: The Church of Erotic Pantheism: Back in the Business of Pleasure
Man, this place still exists?
ETA: I'm mildly annoyed that I can't seem to figure out how to edit the subject line to put in the last word...
ETA: Wait, I got it! Woo!
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Irreverent Father Auros, High Priest of the Church of Erotic Pantheismthe Aurosphere -- Me, myself, and I. Strange Horizons -- Your weekly source for speculative fiction.
- Hiragana
- Pilgrim
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Re: The Church of Erotic Pantheism: Back in the Business of Pleasure
Good grief, Firs managed to bring back Auros!
Awesome! (Welcome back -- you don't know me, I was a dedicated lurker when you were active)
- Auros
- Pilgrim
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Re: The Church of Erotic Pantheism: Back in the Business of Pleasure
Hiragana wrote:Awesome! (Welcome back -- you don't know me, I was a dedicated lurker when you were active)
My Church welcomes lurkers. We have dark corners reserved especially for folks like you. :-)
Irreverent Father Auros, High Priest of the Church of Erotic Pantheismthe Aurosphere -- Me, myself, and I. Strange Horizons -- Your weekly source for speculative fiction.
- Libra-in-a-roundabout-way
- Mantis
- From: the lowlands
- Registered: 2006-03-29
- Posts: 10990
Re: The Church of Erotic Pantheism: Back in the Business of Pleasure
Auros! Wow... Firsfron really got something going!! Never met on the boards, but we met at one of the WFC once, or maybe twice!
"If you say that getting the money is the most important thing, you will spend you life completely wasting your time. You'll be doing things you don't like doing in order to go on living, that is, to go on doing things you don't like doing... which is stupid." ~ Alan Watts
- Auros
- Pilgrim
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Re: The Church of Erotic Pantheism: Back in the Business of Pleasure
Yeah, I was at the WFC in San Jose, and the WorldCon in LA, and I think I rememer you. I think the SJ con was kinda Poe-themed for the year, maybe? And I'm pretty sure that was the con during which DD and Miiru were both crashing at the Ivory Tower, my place in Palo Alto that I had for ~4 years before I moved in with my then-gf / now-spouse Xta... History gets fuzzy once it's more than a year or two into the past. :-/
(I could swear I even was looking at some photos of that con recently, maybe liked to by Shads or DD or somebody.)
Irreverent Father Auros, High Priest of the Church of Erotic Pantheismthe Aurosphere -- Me, myself, and I. Strange Horizons -- Your weekly source for speculative fiction.
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- Mantis
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Re: The Church of Erotic Pantheism: Back in the Business of Pleasure
Auros wrote:Yeah, I was at the WFC in San Jose, and the WorldCon in LA, and I think I rememer you. I think the SJ con was kinda Poe-themed for the year, maybe? And I'm pretty sure that was the con during which DD and Miiru were both crashing at the Ivory Tower, my place in Palo Alto that I had for ~4 years before I moved in with my then-gf / now-spouse Xta... History gets fuzzy once it's more than a year or two into the past. :-/
(I could swear I even was looking at some photos of that con recently, maybe liked to by Shads or DD or somebody.)
Yep was the WFC in San Jose.... Cyan made us victorian gowns to walk around in!!
"If you say that getting the money is the most important thing, you will spend you life completely wasting your time. You'll be doing things you don't like doing in order to go on living, that is, to go on doing things you don't like doing... which is stupid." ~ Alan Watts
- Hiragana
- Pilgrim
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Re: The Church of Erotic Pantheism: Back in the Business of Pleasure
Most kind of you. Dark corners can sometimes be quite...fortuitous for lurkers.
;)
- Auros
- Pilgrim
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Re: The Church of Erotic Pantheism: Back in the Business of Pleasure
A recipe for the frittata, as requested. I'm trying to write this to be accessible to anyone at even the most basic level of cooking skill. Unfortunately, I don't really tend to measure or time things. I cook often enough that a lot of this stuff I just kind of have a feel for, at this point. I'm putting in my best guesses. Also, I'm describing the large version of this, which makes something like 6-8 servings. Normally I make something about a third this size, as dinner for just the two of us.
-=( Frittata Spagnola )=-
EQUIPMENT
* You'll need a large (12") skillet. I confess I mostly use non-stick, because eggs stick to things like anodized aluminum and stainless steel. Cast iron would probably work well, but properly seasoning, cleaning, and maintaining cast iron is kind of a pain. (Also, I'm not sure how cast iron would like the stage of this where you pour in vinegar and then steam the contents of the pan; iron is not friends with either moisture or acid.) Probably the non-stick stuff will give me cancer someday, but it gets the job done.
* Potholders / heat-safe gloves, because when the pan comes out of the oven the handle is going to be blazing hot. I have made the mistake of leaving the pan sitting on the stovetop, coming back a minute later to cut a slice out of it, and forgetting to put on a glove to hold the handle. I don't recommend the experience.
* If you're using a nonstick skillet, you'll need a spatula or spoon that's not going to scar it. I recommend heat-resistant silicone. Wood is OK too, but given the intense red from the paprika in this, you're going to stain it.
* A whisk for beating the eggs. I personally prefer a flat whisk, though a lot of people seem to like the basket style.
* Bowls of various sizes, so you can stage all the ingredients as a mise en place. You'll need to prep all the ingredients before you start cooking, unless you have a partner-in-crime who can prep things fast enough to keep up with the cooking process; usually when Christa and I cook, we cut up all the veggies before I start cooking, but then she'll do the eggs and cheese after I've started, and then mix a drink while I'm finishing up, and we can have our pre-dinner drink while the pan is in the oven. All very civilized. If it weren't for the fact that we tend to change out of our nice work clothes as soon as we get home (and into ratty t-shirts), and the fact that our sense of humor tends more towards bad puns and double entendres than witty repartée, we could pull off some kind of Nick-and-Nora thing.
* Plates for serving. :-)
INGREDIENTS
* One and a half large (or two medium) onions, chopped. (Red or yellow are preferred, but white is OK in a pinch. If you stick a folded paper towel against the cut side of a half-onion and stash it in a sealed ziploc, and then slice off the thin dried-out layer before chopping it later, you can leave it in the fridge for several days and it'll be perfectly fine.)
* One large-ish sweet pepper, chopped.
* One chili pepper, chopped finely. (I used a jalapeño for the moot, but really just about any type of chili will do, and you can pick something with more or less heat as suits your taste.)
* One large (or two small) yellow summer squash, or one medium zucchini, chopped.
* Roughly four small potatoes, chopped. (I love Purple Peruvians, but regardless of exactly what you use, make sure it's a low-to-medium starch / waxy variety. You want the pieces to hold their shape after cooking, rather than dissolving into mush.)
* 1-3 cloves of garlic (depending on how big they are, and how much you like garlic), minced finely.
* ~6 ounces of cured Spanish chorizo, preferably cut into chunks rather than thin disks. (Usually I start with a whole sausage, quarter it lengthwise, and then chop those up into pieces that would be cubic if the sausage was square rather than round.)
* Sherry vinegar, maybe a tablespoon, or even a bit more if you really like vinegar (which personally I do). You could also mix up to a teaspoon of sugar or brown sugar in with the vinegar, if you like a really caramelized flavor and/or a kind of agrodolce / gastrique effect. (I also do a cider vinegar / brown sugar thing with a Jamaican jerk spice mix on a fairly regular basis.)
* Smoked paprika, ~2 tablespoons
* Ground dried fennel fronds and/or bulb, about a tablespoon. Note that if you're using ground fennel seed you can probably cut this down to half, or even a third, because the seeds are much more intensely flavored; if you don't have fennel, anise works too, but again, you'll want to use only a teaspoon of that rather than a tablespoon.
* Cayenne pepper to taste -- I did just a tiny bit, maybe a quarter teaspoon, when I was making this for a big group, but if you enjoy some serious heat, feel free to go with a whole teaspoon. (Alternately, you could add hot sauce at the table.)
* 2-3 cups of grated Iberico, Manchego, or other good Spanish semi-hard cheese. (For a harder, more strongly-flavored cheese, use a bit less.)
* 8 eggs, plus a splash of milk (maybe half a cup?), whisked until thoroughly mixed, and showing a few bubbles on top.
"Chopped" means chopped into pieces that are maybe a centimeter or a little more on a side. "Chopped finely" means, you know, a lot smaller than that. For a chili pepper, I typically cut it into lengthwise quarters or sixths, and then mince those pieces down with cuts that are maybe a couple millimeters apart, so I end up with thin strips. For the squash and potatoes, I like pieces that are maybe 1 to 1.5 centimeters in two dimensions, but less than half a centimeter in the last dimension, so they cook through.
PROCEDURE
* Kind of an optional step: If you're working with a sausage that is particularly fatty, it may be good to render some of that fat out, to use as part of your cooking oil. With a classic Spanish chorizo, which is a fully cured, fairly lean sausage, this won't really work -- you won't get much fat, and you may end up burning the meat. But if you're working with something like pepperoni (which can be up to 40% fat by weight, which is why it gets all that lovely grease on top of your pizza) you almost certainly do want to do this. Bacon, also, will render some great cooking fat. You don't want to fully cook it at this stage -- don't make it crispy -- because it's going to go back into the heat later. But getting some fat out at the beginning means it doesn't render it when you already have put in enough oil for all the veggies, thus turning the dish into a giant greaseball.
* Put the pan over high heat (if you have an electric with a 10-point scale, around 8 is probably good). Put enough oil into the pan to fully coat the bottom. Dump in the onions, and sprinkle a little salt over them to help draw out moisture. Sauté for 5-10 minutes, stirring every minute or so, until they start to look a bit translucent.
* Stir in the peppers and potatoes, continue sautéing for another 5 minutes or so.
* Around this time, you probably want to turn on the oven to start it pre-heating to 375˚F (190˚C).
* If it ever looks like there's not enough oil to keep everything nicely coated, add some, a little at a time (you don't want to be deep frying). If things look like they're getting burned, you may want to turn the heat down a little (though you do want to hear things sizzling) and stir more often.
* Once the peppers and potatoes have started looking a little softened, stir in the squash, garlic, and sausage, then sprinkle over the spices, pour in the vinegar, and slap on the lid to trap the resulting steam. Let everything steam for 5 minutes or so, kind of shaking/swirling the pan occasionally to encourage water on the lid to drip back down into it, and to keep things moving / stirred / unburned in the bottom of the pan.
* Remove the lid, and stir for a minute or two to allow the excess water to steam off.
* When it seems like there's not a lot of moisture in the bottom of the pan any more, sprinkle over the cheese.
* Immediately after getting the cheese on, pour over the eggs. You may want to shake/swirl the pan a little bit to encourage the eggs to seep down into all the crevices, but you don't want to agitate things too much; you're not making a scramble. Not that there's anything wrong with that, if you want to. :-)
* Bake at 375F (190C) for about ten minutes, until it starts to look set and slightly browned on top.
* Crank the oven up to broil (preferably "low broil", if that's a setting you have), and watch it like a hawk; you want to brown the top, but not burn it, and on broil it can go from "beautifully browned" to "hideously blackened" in a matter of about 60 seconds. (Also, this level of heat is not great for your non-stick pan -- in fact, the user guide that came with it will almost certainly tell you not to do this. As long as you get it out within a couple minutes, before the temperature in there rises past 475 or so, it's probably fine.)
* PUT ON HEAT-RESISTANT GLOVES!
* Remove the pan from the oven, and set it either back on the stovetop (if there's a cool/safe spot for that) or on potholders on the counter. Allow to cool for 5-10 minutes.
* Serve using an appropriate spatula. (Or, if you have a big cutting board / plate / tray, and want to get fancy, you can place that over the pan, and flip it over, to turn out the frittata, and then cut it into slices with a knife. If you're not careful/quick, or if it didn't solidify well, you may end up with food all over the floor. We did this at Tad's place, but it was a two-person job; I had to have Xta help me with the flip.)
You can swap out almost any of the ingredients here for other things -- try cauliflower florets, or eggplant, or sweet potatoes, or greens. Try different meats or cheeses, different spice mixes. Skip the potatoes (so you have less starch in the dish) and serve with some nice crusty bread or some kind of rice. Maybe do some culturally themed stuff. We did a Greek version of this a month or so back, with feta cheese, a bit of lemon juice in place of the vinegar, chopped Castelvetrano olives, and oregano, mint, and coriander.
You kinda have to learn from experience how long different things take to cook, and toss them in at the appropriate time so that everything is done all at once. A lot of this is pretty intuitive. Some things (e.g. avocado) don't really need to be "cooked" at all, just tossed in right before the last few steps; others (like eggplant, or root veggies like carrots) are obviously hard / tough, and need quite a bit of cooking time; some stuff may even go in right at the beginning along with the onions.
If you add ~3 cups of half and half to the eggs (instead of the smaller amount of milk), dump the veggies into pie crust (you'd probably need two 9" crusts) rather than leaving them in the pan, and then put the cheese and eggs over that and bake at 350 for ~50 minutes, you will get quiche instead of frittata.
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You're making me wish I had more patience for cooking... but who knows, in summer, when I have more fresh, homegrown veggies - it's something to keep in mind!
Also, I copied the recipe to the Rhubarb Pie to make it easier to find.
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Magpie wrote:You're making me wish I had more patience for cooking... but who knows, in summer, when I have more fresh, homegrown veggies - it's something to keep in mind!
I've found that the whole process of cooking is, for me, very calming and centering, and I really love being able to produce food that's significantly better than many restaurants, at a fraction of the price (even at Whole Foods prices for produce). Also, cooking with my sweetie gives us some time at the end of a hectic work day to just be together. It's one of the fundamentals of maintaining our relationship. :-)
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All very good reasons. :) It's not that I dislike cooking, but most of the time I'm just too hungry and tired after work to do much, and I have so many other things I want to do, too. And on the whole, I think I prefer growing my food to cooking it. ;)
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Magpie wrote:on the whole, I think I prefer growing my food to cooking it. ;)
Xta is pretty good at gardening -- she raises a lot of our herbs -- but I have a black thumb. I'm good with animals, but can't take care of plants to save my life.
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