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#551 2002-02-06 16:15:00

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Re: The Xenodochium (Paragon)

AJ wrote:

Apparently I've yet to meet a colour I didn't like :)

Unlike me.

*goes to beat up that vainglorious magenta*


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#552 2002-02-06 17:24:00

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Re: The Xenodochium (Paragon)

Sarah!  Sister!  We're twins!

(I got what she got in case anyone couldn't tell <g>.)


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#553 2002-02-07 02:21:00

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Re: The Xenodochium (Paragon)

***February 7***

From the hard-nosed-and-warmongering files

What Political Leader Are You Most Like?

I was Winston Churchill, "an idealist who believed in his cause", but there are 16 different personalities from the history of conflict in this test (quite an impressive range, as many of these online tests only have four or five different options).


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#554 2002-02-07 02:28:00

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Re: The Xenodochium (Paragon)

"Thomas Jefferson was an idealist whose foreign policy was based on a moral tone. He supported France, which he saw a enlightened and just, against England, which he viewed as corrupt. His domestic policy was equally idealistic. He opposed Alexander Hamilton's plan to create a Federal banking system, and came to regard the consolidation of power at the federal level as a diabolical plot to subvert the true meaning of the American Revolution."

mhhh....

 

#555 2002-02-07 02:42:00

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Hee - me brother got Ronald Reagan, and he's pretty annoyed about that :)

At least it wasn't Charles De Gaulle with his amusing little hat.


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#556 2002-02-07 02:43:00

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Re: The Xenodochium (Paragon)

David Ben Gurion, with a side order on George Washington. I guess I can live with that.

The military leadership test spewed me out as Teddy Roosevelt. That surprised me somewhat.


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#557 2002-02-07 03:18:00

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Re: The Xenodochium (Paragon)

Ben Gurion.

Yalahiii.


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#558 2002-02-07 04:10:00

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Re: The Xenodochium (Paragon)

Same here...
"Biography:

David Ben-Gurion was the founding father of the state of Israel, its most important leader, and first Prime Minister. Born in Poland, Ben-Gurion became attracted by the ideals of the Zionist movement and emigrated to Palestine in 1906 to work toward establishing a Jewish state. He became involved in politics and military affairs, and he rose to become the leader of the Labor Party in 1930. When Israel was founded, it was Ben-Gurion who declared it to the world. After Israel's founding, he led the Labor Party to electoral victory.

Leadership Attributes:

Like many Zionists, David Ben-Gurion was an idealist who believed in his cause long before it seemed a realistic possibility. Though Ben-Gurion served as Defense Minister for a period, he relied on diplomacy as much as force. Through astute diplomatic efforts with Britain, which was in control of Palestine, he helped pave the road for a Jewish state."

 

#559 2002-02-07 05:56:00

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Re: The Xenodochium (Paragon)

Ihhhhhhhhhhh! I am James Carter. NOOOOOO

 

#560 2002-02-07 05:58:00

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Re: The Xenodochium (Paragon)

*chuckles* Jimmy :)

Why are there so many Ben-Gurions?


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#561 2002-02-07 06:30:00

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Re: The Xenodochium (Paragon)

Because there are so few politicians here? *EG*

Yalahii.


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#562 2002-02-07 07:21:00

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Re: The Xenodochium (Paragon)

Seitherin wrote:

Sarah!  Sister!  We're twins!

:D

 

#563 2002-02-07 07:25:00

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Re: The Xenodochium (Paragon)

Ulysses S Grant

Biography:

While Ulysses S Grant is best known for his military career, including bringing victory for the Union in the Civil War, Grant was also the eighteenth President. After the war, he was elected President and oversaw Reconstruction in the South. He died of throat cancer — the result of a lifelong habit of cigar smoking — but completed his memoirs before his death in 1885.

Leadership Attributes:

Grant was an idealistic leader. During his tenure, Grant supported civil rights for former slaves — at a time when few could conceive of doing so. He worked for ratification of the Fifteenth Amendment, which supported the right of African Americans to vote, and he helped pass the Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871, which allowed the government to fight the Klan more vigorously. Grant, of course, trusted in the use of force when necessary, as befits a former general.


Never heard of the man, but he sounds decent to me :)

 

#564 2002-02-07 09:16:00

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Jadelin wrote:

Ihhhhhhhhhhh! I am James Carter. NOOOOOO

and

Paragon wrote:

*chuckles* Jimmy :)

I'll never understand why Jimmy Carter is always the butt of ridicule.

Speaking as a foreigner, if I had to pick the US President of the last four decades which I respected the most, Carter would come out top with a wide lead.


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#565 2002-02-07 09:42:00

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Re: The Xenodochium (Paragon)

Another David Ben-Gurion, here!


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#566 2002-02-07 10:32:00

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This leadership test is quite simple. Four questions á two options make sixteen possible outcomes.

I induled in a bit of useless clicking bout to find out which leaders the makers of this test believed to be direct opposites, something like a bitwise XOR.

The results are interesting:

Kennedy <-> Ben Gurion
Bush <-> Carter
O'Connell <-> Grant
Truman <-> de Gaulle
Jackson <-> Jefferson
Sadat <-> Wilson
Lincoln <-> Churchill
Washington <-> Reagan

Does anybody else detect a pattern here?


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#567 2002-02-07 10:43:00

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My, my. Another Ben Gurion here.


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#568 2002-02-07 13:35:00

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Re: The Xenodochium (Paragon)

Anwar Sadat


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#569 2002-02-07 14:55:00

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Re: The Xenodochium (Paragon)

djf wrote:


I induled in a bit of useless clicking bout to find out which leaders the makers of this test believed to be direct opposites, something like a bitwise XOR.

The results are interesting:

Bush <-> Carter

On second thought... Carter was not that bad.

 

#570 2002-02-07 15:00:00

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Re: The Xenodochium (Paragon)

Benjamin D'Israeli!

... oh, what, no Benjamin D'Israeli here?  I am soooo him.

And yes, Carter really wasn't that bad.  He was just president at the wrong time.  (I think he would have made a perfect fit in the '90's for example.)


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#571 2002-02-07 15:25:00

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Re: The Xenodochium (Paragon)

Jadelin wrote:


(Bush / Carter)
On second thought... Carter was not that bad.

*laughs* strangely, Carter is the only recent U.S. president I know of not to have some terrible cruel joke made at his expense (Nixon's fraud, Ford's falling down, Reagan's senility, Bush Senior's vomit, Clinton's cigar, Bush Junior's word-manglings and gung-ho-ness and lamentable approach to international relations and...).  what was so bad about him?

Oh, and good to see you around Jadelin :)


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#572 2002-02-07 15:34:00

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Re: The Xenodochium (Paragon)

Paragon wrote:


*laughs* strangely, Carter is the only recent U.S. president I know of not to have some terrible cruel joke made at his expense (Nixon's fraud, Ford's falling down, Reagan's senility, Bush Senior's vomit, Clinton's cigar, Bush Junior's word-manglings and gung-ho-ness and lamentable approach to international relations and...).

Um... not lately, Paragon, but that because they probably ran out of 'em after the '80's.  There's always the peanut jokes (Carter was a peanut farmer, I think...), but I can't recall any that went farther than that.  (Well, I think there were quite a few about his bungling of the hostage crisis and his lack of charisma...)

Anyway, they send him up as a boring, forgotten president on SNL's TV Fun House segment. :)


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#573 2002-02-07 18:48:00

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Cool, I'm Ulysses S. Grant when I'm just the tiniest bit tipsy.  Wonde wo i'd be if I were sober?


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#574 2002-02-07 19:20:00

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Re: The Xenodochium (Paragon)

I'm Wesley Clark as a military leader.  Haven't a clue who he is.


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#575 2002-02-08 02:28:00

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Re: The Xenodochium (Paragon)

Can someone point me to the military-leader part? I can't seem to find it.  I don't know who Wesley Clark is anyway, so it probably won't help much anyway.


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