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#76 2017-01-05 22:52:04

Firsfron of Ronchester
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Re: Celebrating The Heart of What Was Lost

Neemo wrote:

Yes...but I feel like a bad person now...I let the dog out when I  got home and started reading....I dozed off for about 30-40 minutes and realized that she was still outside...oops...luckily I woke up...would've been bad to leave her out overnight in this cold

Yes, that would have been bad in the frozen tundra wastelands of Qanuc-da. ;)

Anyway...I was a bit surprised how small the book is (being an osten ard novel, even my wife said as much lol)

Haha! True! For an Osten Ard novel, it is quite short. We're so used to Tad-bricks. But HOWWL actually just started out as a short story, and (of course) grew in the telling.

But just wait until you see The Witchwood Crown! Even before the Appendix was added, I estimate it was already Tad's fourth-longest novel. And after...? Not sure if it will rank as #4, #3, or #2 in size, but it will definitely be one of the biggest Tad-bricks ever.

And congrats to those who were mentioned in Tad's opening (even tho I only recognized Firsfron and Ylvs) that is super cool!

StrangeShe and Magpie are also mentioned; I'm thrilled to be included among such Osten-Ard-iana titans, support-rocks, and opinion-offerers.

Neemo, we've very much missed you. Hope you stick around during the months between now and when TWC appears; Kenan suggested doing a re-read of HOWWL, and it just wouldn't be the same without you!


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#77 2017-01-05 23:11:41

Firsfron of Ronchester
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Re: Celebrating The Heart of What Was Lost

ylvs wrote:

So I posted my review on amazon.com, amazon.de, amazon.co.uk, barnesandnoble.com and goodreads.

Anything important I missed?

Thanks so much for doing that, Ylvs. It really, really helps. I'll be posting my own (full) reviews when I finish HOWWL.

Books-A-Million might be a worthwhile site on which to leave a book review (Here is my review of DBC on BAM). BAM is now the third-largest remaining brick-and-mortar bookstore chain in the US, after the untimely deaths of Hastings, B Dalton, Borders, Brentano's, Waldenbooks, and Crown Books.


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#78 2017-01-05 23:21:33

Firsfron of Ronchester
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Re: Celebrating The Heart of What Was Lost

Kenan wrote:

*begin decipher script*
ostensibly = osten
and = ard
*end decipher script*

Hee!


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#79 2017-01-06 00:45:16

ylvs
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Re: Celebrating The Heart of What Was Lost

Sometimes, Firs my dear, I wonder why you are thanking me. As if this is an effort of some kind and not something I am as wholly engaged in as you are or the other maniacs on this board.

*grins*


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#80 2017-01-06 11:17:24

Neemo
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Re: Celebrating The Heart of What Was Lost

As long as I can keep up with everyone else's reading...I've only managed 16 pages so far....*blushes*

 

#81 2017-01-06 12:59:06

Firsfron of Ronchester
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Re: Celebrating The Heart of What Was Lost

Neemo wrote:

As long as I can keep up with everyone else's reading...I've only managed 16 pages so far....*blushes*

No need to feel embarrassed, Neemo. I've only reached page 63 myself, due to RL issues. And there are others here who haven't yet even received the book. It'll be weeks before everyone has finished this book, I bet.


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#82 2017-01-06 16:30:40

Blue&Green
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Re: Celebrating The Heart of What Was Lost

Just got my physical copy today. It's beautiful, but I probably won't get to it for a while. Nice to have though, and first print too. I'm not sure if it's first edition though. How would I find that out?

 

#83 2017-01-07 01:35:44

Kenan
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Re: Celebrating The Heart of What Was Lost

Blue&Green wrote:

Just got my physical copy today. It's beautiful, but I probably won't get to it for a while. Nice to have though, and first print too. I'm not sure if it's first edition though. How would I find that out?

It's definitely the first edition, since there only is one edition so far. First print? I'd wager yes, there probably hasn't been a second printing of the first edition yet. If it's a DAW book it would say "first printing" and the month and year on the information page at the start of the book. Also, at the same page there will be numbers counting down from 10, if it goes to 1 it's first printing.

Last edited by Kenan (2017-01-07 01:39:10)


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#84 2017-01-07 07:23:54

Blue&Green
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Re: Celebrating The Heart of What Was Lost

It's definitely the first edition, since there only is one edition so far. First print? I'd wager yes, there probably hasn't been a second printing of the first edition yet. If it's a DAW book it would say "first printing" and the month and year on the information page at the start of the book. Also, at the same page there will be numbers counting down from 10, if it goes to 1 it's first printing.

Thank you.

 

#85 2017-01-07 15:05:15

Gabriele
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Re: Celebrating The Heart of What Was Lost

Firsfron of Ronchester wrote:

Haha! True! For an Osten Ard novel, it is quite short. We're so used to Tad-bricks. But HOWWL actually just started out as a short story, and (of course) grew in the telling.

Yeah, I know that sort of story. Beware those cute, fluffy plotbunnies. They always bring their family.

Tad is not the only one. Brandon Sanderson got 4 novels out of a planned short story he wrote in his Mistborn setting. :-)

But just wait until you see The Witchwood Crown! Even before the Appendix was added, I estimate it was already Tad's fourth-longest novel. And after...? Not sure if it will rank as #4, #3, or #2 in size, but it will definitely be one of the biggest Tad-bricks ever.

Oh, I love me some Tad doorstopper.

Anyone taking a bet that monster will be another 4 book trilogy? Likely not, I suppose; the chance is too great. ;-)

 

#86 2017-01-07 19:37:08

Tiny
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Re: Celebrating The Heart of What Was Lost

Still trying to find a paperback copy locally, and wavering over whether to order the hard cover from book depository instead, or just get the kindle version...

 

#87 2017-01-07 19:59:08

Firsfron of Ronchester
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Re: Celebrating The Heart of What Was Lost

Tiny wrote:

Still trying to find a paperback copy locally, and wavering over whether to order the hard cover from book depository instead, or just get the kindle version...

Hey Tiny! Good to see you!

I don't think HOWWL is in paperback; I've only seen hardcover editions from the publishers. Kindle might be your best bet, if you don't want a hardcover.


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#88 2017-01-07 23:49:58

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Re: Celebrating The Heart of What Was Lost

New Zealand and Australia should get the UK trade paperback which is an export edition designated for overseas markets. Usually, these editions are published at the same time as the hardcover.


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#89 2017-01-08 01:20:51

Kenan
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Re: Celebrating The Heart of What Was Lost

Yeah, we're supposed to get the UK trade paperback here as well.


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#90 2017-01-08 14:21:11

Tiny
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Re: Celebrating The Heart of What Was Lost

Olaf wrote:

New Zealand and Australia should get the UK trade paperback which is an export edition designated for overseas markets. Usually, these editions are published at the same time as the hardcover.

That's the one - but it doesn't seem to be available yet. It's listed on a few sites as unavailable or out of stock.

Kindle is a last resort or something I use to try out new authors for cheap.

 

#91 2017-01-09 05:07:51

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Re: Celebrating The Heart of What Was Lost

I'm supposed to get it on Wednesday... *squee*

Now I'm going to have to decide whether to read all the other books first or just dive in... Think I might just dive in.. Seeing as I've been very occupied with the books over the last months!!!


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#92 2017-01-09 19:10:26

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Re: Celebrating The Heart of What Was Lost

I purchased my copy this past Saturday.  I am quite surprised at how thin the book is.  Not a typical Tad sized tome.  I would say it is most likely his shortest work.  That being said, I am still only on page 8.  Even so, it is amazing.  It does not feel  all that long ago since we were last immersed in Osten Ard.

 

#93 2017-01-09 19:39:45

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Re: Celebrating The Heart of What Was Lost

I bought the ebook for my kindle but have to buy the hardcover too.  I have a gift card for Barnes & Noble (given to me by a lovely visiting duke) but I never have it on me when I'm actually near a B&N.  So just now I went and put the gift card in my purse.  Tomorrow, I'll have to remember to stop at the B&N on my way home.


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#94 2017-01-09 23:56:59

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Re: Celebrating The Heart of What Was Lost

I haaaassss it! Shiny and new and all mine. Preciousssssss.


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#95 2017-01-10 01:05:16

Merenwen
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Re: Celebrating The Heart of What Was Lost

I probably get it tomorrow. From Amazon. My bookstore obviously isn't able to order english books. They are putting me off from day to day and can't even tell if the book arrives this week, and I am getting tired of that.

 

#96 2017-01-11 04:14:31

Merenwen
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Re: Celebrating The Heart of What Was Lost

My parcel arrived at home!!! Can't wait to finish work and find a lovely, warm place on the shelf for my precious!

*is too late to the party*

*dances anyway*

 

#97 2017-01-11 08:57:32

Gabriele
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Re: Celebrating The Heart of What Was Lost

Merenwen wrote:

I probably get it tomorrow. From Amazon. My bookstore obviously isn't able to order english books. They are putting me off from day to day and can't even tell if the book arrives this week, and I am getting tired of that.

German bookstores have lost me as customer years ago when the last privately owned store here closed. Those chains are hopeless if you want something more complicated than the latest 50 Shades of Something in German. ;-)

Last edited by Gabriele (2017-01-11 08:58:01)

 

#98 2017-01-11 10:47:53

Kenan
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Re: Celebrating The Heart of What Was Lost

I got my UK hardcover today as well. It's so pretty!


Wouldn't the plural form of Olaf be Olaves? ;) - Firsfron of Ronchester

 

#99 2017-01-11 12:44:04

Firsfron of Ronchester
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Re: Celebrating The Heart of What Was Lost

PeterJW wrote:

I purchased my copy this past Saturday.  I am quite surprised at how thin the book is.  Not a typical Tad sized tome.  I would say it is most likely his shortest work.

I'm sure Caliban's Hour and Child of an Ancient City are smaller, though.

That being said, I am still only on page 8.  Even so, it is amazing.  It does not feel  all that long ago since we were last immersed in Osten Ard.

I totally agree, Peter JW! I'm only halfway through, and yet I feel as if I never left Osten Ard. I'm very happy with the front half of the book.


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#100 2017-01-11 12:44:34

Firsfron of Ronchester
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Re: Celebrating The Heart of What Was Lost

Kenan wrote:

I got my UK hardcover today as well. It's so pretty!

Yay! Enjoy, Your Dukeliness!


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Ommu is horrifying; Akhenabi is f**king evil; Makho is Trump with a badass sword; Jijibo is the crackhead version of Towser.  And Saomeji is creepy. --Cyan

 

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