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#26 2014-03-10 15:12:18

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Re: When is Book 3 coming out

Another find:
I don`t know quite where to put it but it is a new video review of the German ed. of TDSOH and it is presented in the form of an interview and discussion between two booksellers. Very well done and very. very positive review:

http://www.rnf.de/mediathek/video/bucht … x4pKYWwVVU


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#27 2014-03-11 02:20:48

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Re: When is Book 3 coming out

From Deborah`s Twitter last night

New cover art coming for #BobbyDollar books USA... All 3 with new look

https://twitter.com/MrsTad/status/443117281271234560

Now, that is interesting!


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#28 2014-03-11 07:10:44

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Re: When is Book 3 coming out

Olaf wrote:

From Deborah`s Twitter last night

New cover art coming for #BobbyDollar books USA... All 3 with new look

https://twitter.com/MrsTad/status/443117281271234560

Now, that is interesting!

Urgh, I hate it when they do that. Loyal buyers who bought them from the beginning will get shafted with mismatched volumes on the shelf (because obviously the third volume will only be released with the new cover), while someone who doesn't care that much will get the matching set. :|


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#29 2014-03-11 13:33:05

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Re: When is Book 3 coming out

That's my reaction, too. Now my books won't match. *grrr*

Nothing really matched between TDSOH and HHIH except the spines, but the spines are normally the only thing visible on the bookshelf.


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#30 2014-03-11 13:43:39

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Re: When is Book 3 coming out

ylvs wrote:

I bet we will still be in the dark on the existence of God after reading it.

You mean he's holding out on us? ;)

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Dog is spelled with a capital D. This nick dates from the early days of Smarch when the crowd wanted to declare him our God. He refused but agreed on being God spelled backwards, hence Dog.

Ah, but I used the definite article and the word. Just as you can call God "the god of Christianity" you should be able to call Dog "the dog of Smarchianity" :D


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#31 2014-03-11 18:46:19

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Re: When is Book 3 coming out

That's fair.  KNEEL BEFORE DOG!


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#32 2014-03-11 19:18:17

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Re: When is Book 3 coming out

Kenan wrote:

"the dog of Smarchinsanity" :D

You missed a couple of letters there, Kenan.  I fixed it for you. ;-)


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#33 2014-03-11 21:22:50

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Re: When is Book 3 coming out

Niiice!


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#34 2014-03-11 23:40:22

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Re: When is Book 3 coming out

cyan wrote:

Kenan wrote:

"the dog of Smarchinsanity" :D

You missed a couple of letters there, Kenan.  I fixed it for you. ;-)

*laughs*
I knew it didn't feel 100% right.... :)


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#35 2014-03-12 12:58:07

strangeshe
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Re: When is Book 3 coming out

I just posted this over on Tad's FB Page -- from Penguin's page:

SLEEPING LATE ON JUDGMENT DAY -- available September 2, 2014. From the publisher's page:

[SPOILER WARNING (MILD) for earlier books:]

"Where does an angel go when he's been to Hell and back?

Renegade angel Bobby Dollar does not have an easy afterlife. After surviving the myriad gruesome dangers Hell oh-so-kindly offered him, Bobby has returned empty-handed – his demon girlfriend Casmira, the Countess of Cold Hands, is still in the clutches of Eligor, Grand Duke of Hell. Some hell of a rescue.

Forced to admit his failure, Bobby ends up back at his job as an angel advocate. That is, until Walter, an old angel friend whom Bobby never thought he’d see again, shows up at the local bar. The last time he saw Walter was in Hell, when Walter had tried to warn him about one of Bobby’s angel superiors. But now Walter can’t remember anything, and Bobby doesn’t know whom to trust.

Turns out that there's corruption hidden within the higher ranks of Heaven and Hell, but the only proof Bobby has is a single feather. Before he knows it, he’s in the High Hall of Heavenly Judgement – no longer a bastion for the moral high ground, if it ever was, but instead just another rigged system – on trial for his immortal soul...

Sleeping Late on Judgement Day is the third installment of Tad Williams' urban fantasy Bobby Dollar series!"

http://www.us.penguingroup.com/nf/Book/ … I.facebook

 

#36 2014-03-12 13:44:11

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Re: When is Book 3 coming out

Yay! An early release in September, I'll mark it down in my calendar.

Somehow I think Heaven will be more fiendish than Hell...


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#37 2014-03-17 11:30:10

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Re: When is Book 3 coming out

First glimpse of new cover art from Daw Books. As Deborah announced on Twitter they changed the style and also reworked the covers for books 1 and 2 (you see those on page two of the .pdf)

Also note the big, fat NOT FINAL sign:-)

http://gentlemadness.files.wordpress.co … ks2013.pdf

BTW, this is directly taken from Daw´s new fall catalog.


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#38 2014-03-17 12:10:03

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Re: When is Book 3 coming out

As covers go, it's not bad. But I'm vehemently opposed to new over designs in the middle of a book series. My ASOIAFs will never match, due to all the cover changes. As someone who bought the books starting in 2000, I don't think that's fair.


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#39 2014-03-17 13:03:32

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I don't like the Font and the "Star Wars Scroller" Layout. Looks rather cheap...


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#40 2014-03-17 13:26:07

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Re: When is Book 3 coming out

Peter wrote:

"Star Wars Scroller" Layout

Bwahahhahaha!


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#41 2014-03-17 14:05:18

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Re: When is Book 3 coming out

Olaf wrote:

http://gentlemadness.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/bobbydollardawbooks2013.pdf

To that cover, Meh! I say.


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#42 2014-03-17 15:36:38

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Re: When is Book 3 coming out

Truth be told, I am rather underwhelmed by all three designs. But I´ll hold judgement till I have seen the actual cover on the physical book. Sometimes artwork and design do not reproduce well and look cheesy.


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#43 2014-03-18 10:57:22

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Re: When is Book 3 coming out

I really like the first cover, and thought the second was at least OK.  Not so keen on the re-design. :-/


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#44 2014-03-18 11:39:09

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Re: When is Book 3 coming out

Me neither.

But let's wait for the book until judging ...


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#45 2014-03-18 11:45:24

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Re: When is Book 3 coming out

But I like judging a book's cover before we see it in print!


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#46 2014-03-18 19:17:34

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Re: When is Book 3 coming out

It's the fonts that are messing up that cover for me.


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#47 2014-04-07 00:35:51

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Re: When is Book 3 coming out

In all our excitement about more Osten Ard let´s not forget that Tad will have one or two other books coming out:-)

Here is the preliminary cover Bobby#3 (it is the same as the one in the DAW catalogue, only bigger)
It is not final!

http://edelweiss-assets.abovethetreelin … _6b53f.jpg


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#48 2014-04-07 01:03:47

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Re: When is Book 3 coming out

Olaf wrote:

http://edelweiss-assets.abovethetreeline.com/PP/images/jacket_covers/flyout/9780756408893_6b53f.jpg

*looks again*

Yyyyyep.  Still terrible.


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#49 2014-04-07 13:55:57

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Re: When is Book 3 coming out

Well... At least it's... eh... Very bright red. It will stick out to customers...


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#50 2014-04-07 13:57:31

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Re: When is Book 3 coming out

it will poke them in the eye like a sty...


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