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#51 2013-08-28 13:25:38

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Re: Happy Hour in Hell Reviews

It's very confusing.  Usually for me the best thing to do is find a reviewer or reviewers with the same tastes as me and just go by their overall take -- if they like it, I probably will.

A guy named Mick LaSalle used to review movies for the SF (San Francisco) Chronicle, though, and if he liked it, I never did, and often vice versa.  He wasn't crazy or boring or anything, just any movie that was at all up for debate, we inevitably went opposite directions.  It was just as useful as following someone with whom I agreed.  If he hated it, but it looked half-good, I'd probably like it.


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#52 2013-08-28 13:57:32

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Re: Happy Hour in Hell Reviews

ylvs wrote:

Sometimes I don't understand how the reviewers get to their stars. This one leans more to the negative side yet is giving it four stars while this http://phobosmoon.blogspot.de/2013/08/a … n-hell.htm is reviewing the book almost enthusiasticly while only giving three ...

That is why I dislike the "star system" for book reviewing. Unfortunately, some force you to do a rating (Amazon/Goodreads). Usually, a good book review should have pros/cons in equal measure and help the reader form an informed opinion if the book might be something for him/her. Rating a book does not help with that, because what someone considered the weakness of the book, someone else might see at the biggest strength. A good argument is better than any rating.


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#53 2013-08-28 15:43:51

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Re: Happy Hour in Hell Reviews

It can be entertaining to go on say Amazon and read some of the 1-star reviews of books (products too, sometimes). I think I went through some of the Shadowheart ones, most of them were of the general jist: "This book made no sense, I didn't like it, I had no clue what was going on, I didn't read the other ones." Well durrr no wonder it made no sense. I read some of the ones for Hugh Howey's "Shift", the prequel to "Wool" (written after "Wool"), a few of them were: "I keep waiting for Jules to make an appearance, but there are NO characters from Wool, what gives??" Do you not understand what the word prequel means?


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#54 2013-08-29 15:12:10

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Re: Happy Hour in Hell Reviews

I'm afraid I read fewer and fewer reviews of my books (at least those written by people I don't know).  Because the good ones make me nervous, for some reason -- feels like bragging, sort of, to read people saying nice things about my work -- and the bad ones make me feel queasy.

I would never make a good reviewer myself, because I hate saying bad things about someone else's work, even when it doesn't work for me, and I know too many people in the field -- even more now because of Facebook and Twitter -- to be comfortable, no matter how justified a slam might be.  I know how hard we all work.  I know how closely our identities are wrapped in our creations.  And I'm one of the MORE well-balanced writers.  Don't laugh: I mean in the sense that my self-worth is not entirely shattered if someone doesn't like what I do.


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#55 2013-08-30 16:15:30

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Re: Happy Hour in Hell Reviews

Here's mine.
I'll go looking for other places to post it, with a bigger readership... tomorrow. Right now, I really need to get some sleep.


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#56 2013-09-02 13:17:41

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Re: Happy Hour in Hell Reviews


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#57 2013-09-02 13:50:19

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Re: Happy Hour in Hell Reviews

I liked that one.  Didn't make me nervous.


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#58 2013-09-03 00:05:41

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Re: Happy Hour in Hell Reviews

BTW, today is the offical pubdate for "Happy Hour in Hell" in the US. The UK editions follows on September 26th. So, between today and the 26th there will probably a lot of coverage!


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#59 2013-09-03 23:57:19

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Re: Happy Hour in Hell Reviews

Review on Lytherus:

http://lytherus.com/2013/09/03/review-t … hour-hell/

Tad is also the "Featured author of the week" with new content coming every day:
http://lytherus.com/2013/09/02/featured … -lytherus/


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#60 2013-09-04 00:01:53

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Re: Happy Hour in Hell Reviews


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#61 2013-09-04 23:57:14

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Re: Happy Hour in Hell Reviews

And this


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#62 2013-09-05 00:31:16

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Re: Happy Hour in Hell Reviews

Thanks for putting these up.  I'm trying to cure my allergy to reading reviews.


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#63 2013-09-05 11:10:16

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Re: Happy Hour in Hell Reviews

Long, substantial review at Tor.com

http://www.tor.com/blogs/2013/09/book-r … d-williams


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#64 2013-09-05 11:21:23

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#65 2013-09-05 11:28:33

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Re: Happy Hour in Hell Reviews

Tad wrote:

Thanks for putting these up.  I'm trying to cure my allergy to reading reviews.

Can't be worse than writing hell ...


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#66 2013-09-05 12:03:08

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Re: Happy Hour in Hell Reviews

Actually, reading reviews is a minor version of Hell for me.


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#67 2013-09-05 12:50:13

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Re: Happy Hour in Hell Reviews

As reading Hell was Hell for me this sounds somehow fair.


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#68 2013-09-06 13:03:27

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Re: Happy Hour in Hell Reviews

Yeah, but it was hell writing it for me, too.

I just can't win.


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#69 2013-09-06 15:14:22

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Re: Happy Hour in Hell Reviews

Then just stop trying to overcome the review reading hell.
It's not your job reading reviews after all.
Your job is writing great books.
That's enough.


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#70 2013-09-06 15:34:19

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Re: Happy Hour in Hell Reviews

That, and leading octomobs into battle.
Leading from behind, of course, as all great leaders do.


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#71 2013-09-10 13:20:13

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Re: Happy Hour in Hell Reviews

Another good one:

http://dwcoventry.com/blog/2013/9/10/bo … ur-in-hell

I want to gush more about some of the awful aspects of the underworld and the fun twists and turns that Bobby endures (it's not a spoiler to say he endures, since the next book is already in the works) but I owe it to you to keep this one under wraps. Read Dirty Streets of Heaven for some context (it's a quick read for a weekend) and then dive straight into this awful, bloody, amazing mess. You won't regret it.


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#72 2013-09-11 13:10:57

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Re: Happy Hour in Hell Reviews


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#73 2013-09-12 02:21:56

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Re: Happy Hour in Hell Reviews

Link collection to recent interviews and reviews of HHiH.

http://thedirtystreetsofheaven.wordpres … r-in-hell/

In other news:
The US unabridged audio edition of HHiH should be available sometime today or tomorrow. It can be downloaded from Audible.com/Audible.de. And Amazon as well, I should assume. It is again read by George Newburn.

A UK audio edition will follow at the end of the month.


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#74 2013-09-12 10:14:26

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Re: Happy Hour in Hell Reviews

Tad about world-building in the Bobby Dollar books:

http://www.fantasyliterature.com/giveaw … erature%29


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#75 2013-09-16 11:33:37

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Re: Happy Hour in Hell Reviews

Another one that I stumbled on last night:
http://singmuses.wordpress.com/2013/09/ … -williams/


Amazon is frustrating me. They won't post my review, without telling me why. Tell me what is wrong, goddammit, so I can fix it!
And the Thalia website is frustrating me too, because I can't figure out how to create line breaks. I know it's possible, because I've seen them in other reviews, but I just can't make them work.


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