- Tad
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DOGHOUSE: Tail Between Legs
I come to you in great shame. I've been so busy over the last god knows how long that I just haven't been posting here. It's not because I don't love you all. It's because I don't love you all -enough-.
No, just kidding.
Anyway, I'll really try to do better. More blogging, more posting, and also I'm doing my darndest to finally get SHADOWRISE finished. It's turned into another cursed third book, through no fault of its own, really, but everything to do with the craziness of the rest of my life.
Not bad craziness, though. Under the grace of fate, we are all well and the dogs and cats and kids and lizards and turtles are in fact thriving. Just...busy. And of course the holidays now in full crazy-mode.
But I will do better, really. I'm going to start with a Desert Island question, because I was actually thinking about this last night. If you were only going to take five books with you somewhere -- five actual volumes, not "the complete Encyclopedia Britannica" as one choice -- what would they be? (I will accept books that belong together, like LOTR, as a single book, presuming that they could be somehow bound together in one big book. Same thing with the works of Shakespeare, which many of us actually HAVE as a single book.)
So, what books would you want as the only books you could ever read again, and which you'd probably use to start a new civilization as your descendants clustered around the fire after you're dead and whisper tales from "Mack Bolan: EXECUTIONER" or Arthur Hailey's "AIRPORT" to their own children and grandchildren?
I will provide my own, but not immediately, because I'm actually making a bigger list of favorites I'm going to post on the site, but I'll pick out the five Desert Island winners because they're not necessarily the top five I'd put on a list of all-time favorites.
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The Island of the day before - Umberto eco (I haven't read that one yet but I thought it was more appropriate than focault's pendulum and the name of the rose :P)
Starship Troopers
The View From The Mirror - Ian Irvine (Abusing the LOTR loophole here :P)
Pride And Predjudice (mainly as a punishment for the unruly descendants or to beat some pigs to death so I can eat them)
Dracula - Bram Stoker (cause I'm halfway through it and If I don't read it all the way through it'll bug me for all eternity)
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The Almighty Five That I Can Read Ever and Ever Again:
Diana Gabaldon - Outlander (in fact, I'll claim the first trilogy as One Thing) George RR Martin - Game of Thrones Dan Simmons - Hyperion Joseph Heller - Catch-22 Colleen McCullough - The Thorn Birds
The first four are pretty obvious. Yes, Thorn Birds is sheer melodramatic guilty pleasure reading, but the characters of Archbishop Contini-Verchese and Rainer Moerling Hartheim are standout gems.
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I think the books I bring to a desert island would be a bit different from my generalised favourites. This is kinda tough. I don't read a lot of books that don't come in large series format.
1) Something by Dostoevsky, it would be tough to decide which one.
2) MS&T
3) The Secret History--Donna Tart
4) The Life of Pi--Yann Martel
5) Cloud Atlas--David Mitchell
I'd really like to add
6) The Malazan series by Steven Erikson
7) Choke and Survivor by Chuck Palahniuk
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I am going to be predictable.
1. Complete works of Shakespeare -- not sure which of my many editions of this I would take -- either the really old one (1865) or the complete illustrated or the Riverside or the big paperback.
2. Silmarillion -- because I might actually finish it when I have nothing better to do and it would be interesting as a foundation for a new civilization. I like experiments.
3. Sagas of the Icelanders -- maybe it would inspire me to build a ship and try to escape the island.
4. Les Miserables -- because it is 1600 pages of people who are more miserable than I am.
5. Any reasonably large book on quantum physics because I'll have the time to try and understand it.
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Jen, I have to agree with you with the Malazan one. I'd also take the entire Otherland - if it counts as one book. Above all, not to sound stereotypical or anything, but my very first choice would be the Bible. In these last few years I've grown stronger in that sense.
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1) MS&T 2) Malazan series 3) Salman Rushdie - The Satanic Verses 4) Ratha's Creature - Clare Bell (for the kids!) 5) A collection of Sherlock holmes stories
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Oh, and....good to see you posting, Tad! We love you, too. Busy is understandable, in every sense. I think that I speak for a lot of us here when I say we're more of a family than a responsibility, so so need for guilt!
I'm looking forward to your list of 5. And an aside question...anything you've read very recently that's had an impact on you? (that goes for anyone)
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... if I had to choose from what is currently on my bookshelves?
- Journey to the West by Wu Cheng'en - History of Art by H.W. Janson, 5th Edition - the Otherland Series, because there are only 3 books in MS&T - the OED, because the box set I own includes a magnifying glass which is sure to come in handy - the Wheel of Time series, because it would require time on a desert island for me to have the patience to follow the scramble that is meant to be a plot, not to mention the cast of thousands
If I weren't restricted to books I already have, I'd trade the Wheel of Time series for a really concise and extensive tome on surviving on (and escaping) a desert island.
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Only 5 "books" eh?
1. The Bible (Old and New Testament - I like the New Jerusalem Teacher's version personally).
2. All my journals ... this may sound a strange one to many. I have been keeping daily diaries for almost 20 years now and have some autobiographical diaries (primarily things I scribbled down so I would not forget them), poetical diaries, and travel diaries (including my trip to Scotland and Greece primarily).
3. Hmm ... I guess the "complete works of G.K. Chesterton" is out? :D Yes? Okay then. His work "Orthodoxy". It is a small book but is very foundational for me in so many ways!
4. I actually have a great fondness for the haiku of Matsuo Basho ... so perhaps the collected works of his in one tidy volume.
5. Last, but not least, I would prolly bring along one of the books of essays by Wendell Berry. Had to choose which one though.
If one of these would not qualify then I would bring one of the books by Theophan the Recluse or Ignatius Brianchaninov....
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- Marian
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Tad, yay! Good to see you again. :)
Okay, books!
Otherland - Did we agree Otherland counts as one? I figure if LotR does.... and while it would be hard to choose between those two (because I am newly, late-in-life in complete love with LotR), Otherland is also completely magical and takes us to all these different places, and has a lot of meaning-of-life stuff in it, and it brings back many fond memories of long days spent debating the mysteries of the story with my new TWMB and ListServ friends. Also, my Otherland is signed with many friendly, smile-bringing Tad-words, while LotR is not. So I can be like, "Hey kids, let me tell you a story about Uncle Tad...." (Because it's a desert island, I can make up my own family history! Upside!)
Peter Pan - Rationally because I'd need something for the kids, but really because this is one I just never get tired of, and I will obviously need a tearjerker on a desert island, without chick flicks to get me by. (Yes, I always cry at the end of Peter Pan. Every single time.)
The Great Gatsby - I've always been a sucker for this one, and am in love with it a different way each time I read it.
Shakespeare Complete - As soon as that's an option, it's not like I can put it back, man! History, bawdiness, hours of entertainment for the whole apocolypse clan.
Bill Bryson's A Very Short History of Nearly Everything - A history of the universe and humanity's triumphs and foibles, and because Bryson's easygoing humor always has a way of making me feel like, ah, life's not so hard, everything is okay. With my penchant for taking things too seriously, I really need that.
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- Aan`allein
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David Zindell: Neverness, The Broken God, The Wild and War in Heaven.
They are thick, slow reading (especially if you go deep), and above all bend my mind. I think that on a desert island, I could use some bending of my mind every so often. They are also filled with words of poetic beauty, are books of hope, take a long view of time, and contain a lot of valuable information and life lessons which'd probably be useful for restarting civilization. I've read these books during key periods of my life, and they've helped shape the direction of my life, so yeah, they're the obvious and instantaneous answer.
For the fifth one I'd be frantically searching for a bound volume of all of Neal Stephenson's Baroque Cycle (hey, one can dream; if it did exist, I could catapult the future civilization straight from the dark ages to post-Newton). If publishers continue being stupid, not yet having provided this "must-have-in-one-volume" masterwork in a single volume, I'd then go for Douglas Adams' The Ultimate Hitchhiker's Guide (you know, the big blue book owned by 90% of the people who read science fiction). Some humour to put my position on that desert island into perspective with would probably be good.
Runners-up would be Charles de Lint's Moonlight & Vines (to remind me of real magic), Patricia McKillip's The Riddle-Master Trilogy (idem) and Kim Stanley Robinson's Antarctica (might help me deal with the environment).
It's a totally unfair question, though. How could I ever leave behind the runners-up, let alone Amber, Otherland, the Mars trilogy, the Malazan books, all of Steven Brust, and ... and ... and ... *sobs and hugs his books* (Can't we do "if you could only take five book-cases, which'd it be?" That'd be hard enough to answer in itself already...)
(@Marian: by the phrasing of Tad's question, Otherland doesn't count as one. :( Only books which actually exist as a single volume in the real world. LotR does, but publishers just haven't caught on yet that Otherland needs the same treatment. So totally unfair!)
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Aan`allein wrote:@Marian: by the phrasing of Tad's question, Otherland doesn't count as one. :( Only books which actually exist as a single volume in the real world. LotR does, but publishers just haven't caught on yet that Otherland needs the same treatment. So totally unfair!)
Yeah, it occurred to me since my post, too, that I couldn't count the hypothetical One Volume of Doom, since I wanted my signed ones, which are definitely not one volume.
Oh, well. *pulls Otherland out of desert island shopping cart* I can't just take one of the books, because then I'd always be wondering what I was forgetting that happened later/before.
Hmm. I need at least one Tad book. Caliban's Hour, then, which is fab, and I can write dissertations in the sand cross-referencing that and The Tempest.... and besides, the cover art on the red one could keep my imagination going even when I lose my glasses! ;)
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I refuse to think about this question. Until we get a one-volume edition of MST.
Though I'd probably take 5 nonfiction books. I mean, I'll have to be able to look up plants and see if they're edible. *has now images of wandering through the wilderness with the Botanica*
As for the descendants... weren't we talking about a deserted island? I wasn't aware humans are capable of parthenogenesis.
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Kiema wrote:I am going to be predictable.
1. Complete works of Shakespeare -- not sure which of my many editions of this I would take -- either the really old one (1865) or the complete illustrated or the Riverside or the big paperback.
2. Silmarillion -- because I might actually finish it when I have nothing better to do and it would be interesting as a foundation for a new civilization. I like experiments.
3. Sagas of the Icelanders -- maybe it would inspire me to build a ship and try to escape the island.
4. Les Miserables -- because it is 1600 pages of people who are more miserable than I am.
5. Any reasonably large book on quantum physics because I'll have the time to try and understand it.
I was considering taking the Sagas and the Eddas, too. :)
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Jendaiya wrote:....I was considering taking the Sagas and the Eddas, too. :)
Yes indeed ... good tales.
Hmm ... don't remember much about shipbuilding in there though ... of course it has been a while....
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Magpie wrote:As for the descendants... weren't we talking about a deserted island? I wasn't aware humans are capable of parthenogenesis.
Well, see, the island could be deserted before we got stuck there, right? Then the plane crash lands during the nuclear fall-out, and you don't know if humanity survived, and it is your duty to procreate with the skeezy guy from A12.
Or you could go to the island pregnant.
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Mycanid wrote:Hmm ... don't remember much about shipbuilding in there though ... of course it has been a while....
I don't recall shipbuilding either -- but just looking for the inspiration.
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This is such a totally unfair question....
If I manage to bind my entire collection of books together with duct-tape, would that then count as one?? PLease???
*pouts* Prolly not...
Okay...
1. Ulysses by James Joyce. (being stuck on a desert island would finally force me to get through it, allthough chances are I might drown myself first)
2. LOTR (I've already read it 20 times and will definitely be able to read it again)
3. The war of the flowers (as the Otherland serie is out by vote... and taking just the one book would be too frustrating)
4. The Goblin Companion by Brian Froud and Terry Jones (because you never know what you might meet, and even if I don't meet anything, I'll at least be able to perfect my drawing of goblins)
5. (hard choice, still pondering taping up all the other books) The unbearable lightness of being by Milan Kundera (because I just could not live anywhere without that book)
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I shall break rules and begin the first inter-island library, rowing from island to island in my makeshift bamboo boat, braving the depths of the sea and creatures to exchange various volumes of Otherland and other series we all would like to read.
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Kiema wrote:I shall break rules and begin the first inter-island library, rowing from island to island in my makeshift bamboo boat, braving the depths of the sea and creatures to exchange various volumes of Otherland and other series we all would like to read.
Foul! I cry foul!
*Only b/c i think it was a great idea and wished I thought of something like that first! :D*
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I love you guys. We can't even stay on topic with the books-desert-island question.
We'll have that desert island populated, industrialized and Chem-Dried before Tad gets back!
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I'm very tired. I read the name of message board as "Tall Between Legs." :o/
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1. How to Build a Boat, Cee Sick
2. Desert Island on $5 a Day, Didya Packawallet
3. Learning to Love Coconut Milk, Howie Runs
4. How to Build a Boat Sand Castle, Gritty Sails
5. LOTR, Duh!!
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